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balto said:
Most of the time people don't believe how simple it is to get rid of tms/anxiety. They can't believe that just by go on living life can get rid of their 10 years of back pain or 5 years of panic attack, or knee pain, foot pain, pelvis pain, tinnitus, headache.... 1000 more symptoms. I am no doctor, I can only give you a living example. That is exactly how I got rid of my decades of multiple tms/anxiety/mind body diseases. By just go on living life and don't give a damn about my symptoms. In my opinion Mike, it is not a distraction. Your symptoms is the mirror image of your emotions. Negative emotions will produce negative health symptoms. Positive emotion will cancel out your negative and will produce positive feeling in our body. The concept is very simple but because it is people just can't believe it.
Our body always scan our mind and our surrounding for sign of danger. When it see sign of danger it will produce fight or flight respond. When sign of danger become chronic of traumatic, it make negative changes to our cells, our dna, our chemistry, our organs,... and we have Mind body symptoms. To our body, negative emotion is a sign of danger. Rushing is a sign of danger, traumas is a sign of danger, .....
To go on living our life (positively) is exactly how we can get rid of our symptoms. We shut off the sign of danger. We tell our body we are no longer in danger. We are safe and we are enjoying our life. We are calm, contented, and at peace. Our body will comply. It will stop producing stress hormones. Our breathing will slow down. Our heart will rest more and slow down. Our muscles will relax and our blood will flow more freely. Our blood sugar level will stablize. Our digestive system will work the way it suppose to work..... and we will be "normal" again.
I think different than you do. I think meditation, journalling, tapping,... will help but they are just "distraction". They help temporary but they rarely cure. Although some people got lucky using those methods and get rid of a few symptoms. But from my observation, they almost always get other symptoms or "relapses".
To truly overcome your symptoms. All of our symptoms we have to truly believe we are fine, we are healthy. We have to change our belief. We have to convince our body that it is not in any danger at all. Stop all of our FEARS is the single most important belief we have to achieve to heal.
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Hi Balto, I respect you dearly, but I think you've misunderstood my post. The OP states that we should get back to "living", nowhere in the original post does it address we should think psychologically and transform our thinking; to being positive, removing fear and thinking clean. I'm aware of the impact limiting beliefs and negative thinking can have at a physiological level. My stance for my own journey and to get back to living, is that I must do the work; the principle of "just" getting back to life, certainly couldn't be applied to someone who suffers from E g, insomnia (people who have overcome this TMS equivalent meditated, journaled etc etc)

I understand the principles of the technique and I've no doubt that they worked for you. But with TMS healing one approach doesn't suit all. Some have to gradually work through the process in manageable, blocks and build up "confidence" in the technique. Techniques like meditation, journalling can actually have profound effects and help people shift their thinking from a place of fear to one which is more neutral where everything seems bearable and possible. Distraction, as you class journaling, meditation, etc works and has been proven scientifically. These techniques are quite important if someone's is in severe chronic pain, or suffering anxiety, or immobile and shouldn't be hastily dismissed.

I understand you may have been able to apply the techniques for knee pain, back pain etc but it's important we are "mindful" that not everyone on the forum has similar circumstances / symptoms or heals in the same way and nor can they just get back to living without making significant changes. One has to have a sense of purpose and be truly happy. I believe without addressing these factors aswell as thinking one is totally healthy, symptoms will reoccur over and over again.

Best regards
 
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I agree that getting the fear monkey off your back is crucial in healing, to change how we react to everyday life - to step out of the negative loop and into a more positive one. How we get there is different for each one of us. For most it's not an option to just read a book and say 'hey, well I'm just going to start living now' - we need to find ways to teach ourselves that we are safe and OK, which can be easier said than done.

On the other hand, to engulf yourself in innumerable TMS books and techniques without making changes in your life won't get you anywhere. Isn't the point of the tools to help you move forward? Some need to take baby steps, some are able to make huge leaps - the key is to take the steps (and IMO keeping it simple). That's what this place is for, to help you figure out what works for you and then encourage you to follow that path.
 
Hi, Simplicity. I like Mike's reply to you. We should celebrate even the smallest steps toward TMS healing. Like the ancient Chinese saying, a journey of a thousand miles begins with taking the first step. But who knows about them? They said they didn't invent chop suey and we did. The importsnt thing is, someone invented it and I love it. We all have long journeys in our lives, and the time to start them is now.
 
I think @Simplicity and I are pretty much on the same page when it comes to healing, She's definitely come a long way over the last few months which I'm really delighted to see.

@Walt Oleksy

You are a truly remarkable person and I absolutely love how compassionate and caring you are towards others on a daily basis. I, one day aspire to be on your level. God bless you always my dear friend and have the most wonderful of weeks.
 
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Thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered and look forward to the read and tools. I have found since my anxiety has gotten worse, I fear so many more things than in the past. Just in the last year, attending a small meeting at work, my anxiety rises and I have to start the breathing techniques. In my recent past experience with my IBS and back issues has created a withdrawn person that doesn't want to interact with others for fear of panic attack arising while people are in my company. It's a new fear, that just hits me. I get lightheaded, dizzy, and my heart races. My stomach reacts to the nervousness, and I feel like I need to go to a restroom NOW. As soon as the meeting is over and I go back to my "safe zone", I am calmer and back to myself. It's only when I am cornered with closed doors that it seems to be worse. I hope this book helps. The deep breathing has definitely helped.
 
KatheC said:
I get lightheaded, dizzy, and my heart races.
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Have you heard of Claire Weekes? I suffered from severe anxiety, panic attacks and dizziness and her book helped me tremendously. Many of us with anxiety on the forum like her a lot and find her techniques to be life-changing.
 
Hi Kathe,

In the past had my share of panic attacks and hyperventlating (wich in my case kept the panic going) i learned breathing exercises and still do them everyday..(that's now 15 years) nowadays i use a app on my Phone from Saagara..look it up if you like!
Helps me enorm: Never had the social anxiety anymore. Can be a real strong tool.
Also great to relax without panic.

Greetings
Karina
 
KatheC said:
Thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered and look forward to the read and tools. I have found since my anxiety has gotten worse, I fear so many more things than in the past. Just in the last year, attending a small meeting at work, my anxiety rises and I have to start the breathing techniques. In my recent past experience with my IBS and back issues has created a withdrawn person that doesn't want to interact with others for fear of panic attack arising while people are in my company. It's a new fear, that just hits me. I get lightheaded, dizzy, and my heart races. My stomach reacts to the nervousness, and I feel like I need to go to a restroom NOW. As soon as the meeting is over and I go back to my "safe zone", I am calmer and back to myself. It's only when I am cornered with closed doors that it seems to be worse. I hope this book helps. The deep breathing has definitely helped.
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Kathe,

I find the following particularity useful for anxiety.

Alternate nostril breathing


And 4-7-8 breathing

http://www.tmswiki.org/forum/tags/the-4-7-8-breath/
 
Simplicity said:
I agree that getting the fear monkey off your back is crucial in healing, to change how we react to everyday life - to step out of the negative loop and into a more positive one. How we get there is different for each one of us. For most it's not an option to just read a book and say 'hey, well I'm just going to start living now' - we need to find ways to teach ourselves that we are safe and OK, which can be easier said than done.

On the other hand, to engulf yourself in innumerable TMS books and techniques without making changes in your life won't get you anywhere. Isn't the point of the tools to help you move forward? Some need to take baby steps, some are able to make huge leaps - the key is to take the steps (and IMO keeping it simple). That's what this place is for, to help you figure out what works for you and then encourage you to follow that path.
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Totally agree with this sentiment.

I used to get very disheartened with the fact that I had been trying to 'beat' TMS for so long without any real tangible results but upon reflection I could see all I was doing was knowledge gathering but failing to implement it on a daily/consistent basis.

I read somewhere that the key to success with pretty much anything is to 'get a plan and get on it' and think this applies here. I believe that as we are all different we probably do respond to different methodologies regarding starting to feel better and to healing but we really need to choose one and commit in order to at least begin to move forward.
 
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Huckleberry said:
Totally agree with this sentiment.

I used to get very disheartened with the fact that I had been trying to 'beat' TMS for so long without any real tangible results but upon reflection I could see all I was doing was knowledge gathering but failing to implement it on a daily/consistent basis.

I read somewhere that the key to success with pretty much anything is to 'get a plan and get on it' and think this applies here. I believe that as we are all different we probably do respond to different methodologies regarding starting to feel better and to healing but we really need to choose one and commit in order to at leat being to move forward.
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Or to quote the Nike commercial or the SteveO book, "just do it".
 
KatheC said:
... Just in the last year, attending a small meeting at work, my anxiety rises and I have to start the breathing techniques. In my recent past experience with my IBS and back issues has created a withdrawn person that doesn't want to interact with others for fear of panic attack arising while people are in my company. It's a new fear, that just hits me. I get lightheaded, dizzy, and my heart races. My stomach reacts to the nervousness, and I feel like I need to go to a restroom NOW. As soon as the meeting is over and I go back to my "safe zone", I am calmer and back to myself. It's only when I am cornered with closed doors that it seems to be worse...
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Have you gotten an RX for meds to calm the symptoms?
 
@Tennis Tom ...no I dont like rx and want to try to solve this myself thru self help...so far I have controlled it thru deep breathing and my successes show me I can contol this
 
Huckleberry said:
I read somewhere that the key to success with pretty much anything is to 'get a plan and get on it' and think this applies here. I believe that as we are all different we probably do respond to different methodologies regarding starting to feel better and to healing but we really need to choose one and commit in order to at least begin to move forward.
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Exactly... plus you've been able to get back to living life before, so you know you have the power to get better. You have the awareness and the insight, you just have to trust yourself to take the necessary steps.
 
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