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Stupid question

Alfaman147 said:
This is a stupid question but I suffer from anal ache and pelvic floor tension due to mind body issues. Some say levator ani syndrome but they say people who have that feel an ache high up in the rectum. Mine feels about 2cm inside my anus. So is this levator ani or just plain pelvic tension??. May even be my internal anal sphincter. But at last I know 100 percent it is mind body related.
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Alfaman, it's OK, there are no stupid questions--only dumb-asses. Sorry, I couldn't help myself, and I'm sure you will forgive me since we go way back and I brought you over here from TMS Help, you sound much better now. Have you looked into anal suppositories to relieve your symptomatic pain? Here's a link to diclofenac rectal suppositories. I've been taking the oral form (Voltaran brand name) for my hip-arthritis and have had a noticeable improvement. Maybe the suppository form will help you gain some symptomatic relief and you can move onto some more fun TMS symptom substitutions if you still need the protection of TMS--how 'bout some urinary urgency to work the other side of the TMS coin?

BTW, are you into Alfa Romeos, I thought you were maybe an Alfa mechanic, I had a Graduate version for a while that I liked and sold before it needed to see Fix It Again Tony.


 
It's so obvious when you think logically. If you were researching anything be it a health issue or how to fix a washing machine, you will keep that thought going in your head. I have no illness or nasty problem because I'm sure I'd be dead by now. Also my doctor said that it's obviously a mind body issue because the symptoms are always the same. The pain never changes. He said it's time to worry if you start to notice something which is not the normal discomfort you have. He was basically saying this pain has become the norm for me.
 
Hucleberry's response pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Ezer made a comment the other day that jarred something in my brain: you have to think psychological. So I got to thinking, maybe instead of addressing the issue as psychological rather than psychophysiological, getting back to the basics, may offer a better starting point for some.

Now, this isn't to say the pain doesn't exist, but does suggest that you re-evaluate your thought processes by themselves before proceeding on to how they play into the particular problem.
 
Tennis Tom said:
Alfaman, it's OK, there are no stupid questions--only dumb-asses. Sorry, I couldn't help myself, and I'm sure you will forgive me since we go way back and I brought you over here from TMS Help, you sound much better now. Have you looked into anal suppositories to relieve your symptomatic pain? Here's a link to diclofenac rectal suppositories. I've been taking the oral form (Voltaran brand name) for my hip-arthritis and have had a noticeable improvement. Maybe the suppository form will help you gain some symptomatic relief and you can move onto some more fun TMS symptom substitutions if you still need the protection of TMS--how 'bout some urinary urgency to work the other side of the TMS coin?

BTW, are you into Alfa Romeos, I thought you were maybe an Alfa mechanic, I had a Graduate version for a while that I liked and sold before it needed to see Fix It Again Tony.


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Yes tom you have indeed been with me every step of the way. Like when I was on the old forum in 2013 when I had no idea what was wrong with me. And yet I fixed myself and was spending all of 2015 and most of 2016 with no problems at all. As for the pain relief my doctor has given me some diltiazem cream. It's used for people with anal spasms and also for after anal surgery. It was originally prescribed by a colorectal surgeon I saw in 2014 when I he told me I had proctalgia which he said is caused by emotional issues. I also take paracetamol when it's really bad. And hey after all this time I'm still alive lol so no nasty problems surely.
 
Alfaman147 said:
Yes tom you have indeed been with me every step of the way. Like when I was on the old forum in 2013 when I had no idea what was wrong with me. And yet I fixed myself and was spending all of 2015 and most of 2016 with no problems at all. As for the pain relief my doctor has given me some diltiazem cream. It's used for people with anal spasms and also for after anal surgery. It was originally prescribed by a colorectal surgeon I saw in 2014 when I he told me I had proctalgia which he said is caused by emotional issues. I also take paracetamol when it's really bad. And hey after all this time I'm still alive lol so no nasty problems surely.
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And yes Tom I'm a mechanic for Alfa Romeo. Have been for 20 years and own a fair few myself. Bloody Italians I swear this is where all my problems came from haha. On the phone for 2 hours to ask someone at the factory about a problem.... gggrrrrrrrrr
 
Alfaman147 said:
And yes Tom I'm a mechanic for Alfa Romeo. Have been for 20 years and own a fair few myself. Bloody Italians I swear this is where all my problems came from haha. On the phone for 2 hours to ask someone at the factory about a problem.... gggrrrrrrrrr
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I know it's getting away from the topic at hand, but I'm a huge car fanatic, especially of the European makes.....not so much BMWs or Mercedes. I saw this Alfa Romeo SZ parked one day. I swear I about laid across the bonnet and gave it a big hug. I miss seeing all of my childhood favorites near daily.
 
I think sometimes knowing the issue is psychological is as bad as knowing it's physical. TRYING to fix your mind is as bad as trying to fix your body. I'm going to stop trying to do anything. And most of all stop looking on the bloody Internet. I blame modern phones. The internet is a finger click away. I'm sure dr sarno said that researching was a good thing, but that was before the internet was so easily accesable and available.
 
RichieRich said:
I know it's getting away from the topic at hand, but I'm a huge car fanatic, especially of the European makes.....not so much BMWs or Mercedes. I saw this Alfa Romeo SZ parked one day. I swear I about laid across the bonnet and gave it a big hug. I miss seeing all of my childhood favorites near daily.
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The sz is a rare old beast
 
Alfaman147 said:
And yes Tom I'm a mechanic for Alfa Romeo. Have been for 20 years and own a fair few myself. Bloody Italians I swear this is where all my problems came from haha. On the phone for 2 hours to ask someone at the factory about a problem.... gggrrrrrrrrr
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Could be much worse, you could be a Merc mechanic, they are driven mad by those space-ships with wheels--does one really need 200 moving parts for an ashtray. The hot-rocks massage chair with aromatherapy does sound nice though--maybe need a test drive in one, but would never buy a Merc--maybe lease. I do have an Abarth Cabrio and it's a hoot, reminds me of the old Mini-Cooper S's. The Alfa Graduate was great to drive, had it for about a year--and NO problems! Sold it to someone who drove it home from NorCal to LA along the HW 1 coast and sent a thank-you note--maybe sold that one too soon.

p.s. You might want to look into the dicolfenac (Voltaran), it was judged the best of the NSAID's in a recent Lancet Journal meta-study. I've noticed a "subjective" 30% improvement in my movement on the courts.
 
I have voltarol gel. I can't obviously put it inside my anus but if I get it anywhere near it soaks into the blood stream anyway doesn't it???
 
Alfaman147 said:
I need to look at this from another angle. I'm not going to be defeated. I know in my own mind I can improve or even get rid of this. For God sake a few days ago I was feeling great. I have let one slip define me again. And it all came from the brief obsession that I had a rectal prolapse which led me to the IBS forum and talking to someone who has the same symptoms as me who also was convinced he had a prolapse. I was telling him how he can't have one because he would have more symptoms. I was too busy telling him how it was a mind body issue that I may have convinced myself other wise. And yet I know I haven't which led me onto this forum again for reassurance. So basically yesterday I was jumping between both forums and Google in between. So it's no wonder why I'm having pain again.
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Hi Alfaman147,
It might help to print out this statement, and keep it handy the next time you are temped to go down this path. Refine this statement as a clear statement to yourself about your tendencies and the dismal results when you don't exhibit some self control. You see this so clearly. It would be great to have a reminder "note to self!" Good luck!
Andy B
 
Tennis Tom said:
Could be much worse, you could be a Merc mechanic, they are driven mad by those space-ships with wheels--does one really need 200 moving parts for an ashtray. The hot-rocks massage chair with aromatherapy does sound nice though--maybe need a test drive in one, but would never buy a Merc--maybe lease. I do have an Abarth Cabrio and it's a hoot, reminds me of the old Mini-Cooper S's. The Alfa Graduate was great to drive, had it for about a year--and NO problems! Sold it to someone who drove it home from NorCal to LA along the HW 1 coast and sent a thank-you note--maybe sold that one too soon.

p.s. You might want to look into the dicolfenac (Voltaran), it was judged the best of the NSAID's in a recent Lancet Journal meta-study. I've noticed a "subjective" 30% improvement in my movement on the courts.
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Top apparently you can apply voltarol gel to the anal area and even inside if you need to
 
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