( head symptoms)can you point me in the direction of people who have had head symptoms .

Nelle stop trying to look for symptoms that other people have. Fear is the answer, once you can overcome the fear you will be cured. As Dr Sarno said the brain will not be denied, in other words once you fix one symptom it will move to another to keep you in a cycle of fear. A lot of times it moves to what ever is the popular injury of this time. Your brain needs anxiety relief to cover up the anger. But ultimately you are healthy, go be free as you are intended to be.

You have the power to overcome the fear, each time it comes look at it for what it is. Stand up to the fear, it can't hurt you. Good luck.

Ryan
 
Ladies, did u had any jaw issues along with a neck/head??
I also had pain in my jaw. In fact, my migraine pain would move around from my temple to my crown, to my jaw, my neck and my ear. This was actually "evidence" of TMS although I did not realize this at the time. The book was so helpful because it explained the inconsistencies that often occur with TMS. In college I would get a cramp in my jaw that would spread to my entire head. Very painful. Now I realize this was TMS also.
 
Here's a list of TMS practitioners in the UK:

http://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist#United_Kingdom (Find a TMS Doctor or Therapist)

Georgie Oldfield holds frequent conferences and has a TMS newsletter:

Georgina Oldfield, MCSP (Physiotherapist)

Georgie Oldfield is a physiotherapist based in the UK. She is the founder of SIRPA (The Stress Illness Recovery Practitioners Association), an organization dedicated to educating and training practitioners and other professionals in TMS treatment. Georgie is the organizer of SIRPA's inaugural conference, “Chronic Pain: to suppress, manage, or cure?”.

Georgie is the author of the 2014 TMS book Chronic Pain: Your Key to Recovery, which includes information about TMS as well as worksheets and exercises and stories from people who successfully overcame their TMS. She has also developed an online recovery program as well as a recovery CD, and runs monthly clinics in London.

In her survey response, Georgie writes:

“Despite being a Physiotherapist, Dr Sarno's concept and approach was not a surprise to me. For many years prior to coming across this work in 2007 I had























been looking for the answer to the many inconsistencies I had been observing with my own patients. I had also already begun to realise that pain often did not appear to be related to the structural problems patients had been diagnosed with. Coming across TMS was an epiphany moment for me and has completely changed my whole understanding and therefore how I work. Having seen the remarkable and often life changing recoveries in my own patients, I am passionate about working with people with TMS/PPD and 100% of my time over the past few years has been developing this work and raising the profile in the UK.
“Since developing SIRPA I continue to work in a clinical role working with people who suffer from TMS/PPD. Although based in Yorkshire I also run regular assessment clinics in London and Bristol. Through SIRPA I also run training courses for other regulated Health Professionals in order to help them integrate this approach into their own work. Our aim is to raise the profile of this work by increasing the awareness of stress illness to the public and Practitioners as well as the Medical world.”
(Source)
A physiotherapist is very similar to a doctor, in that they can make diagnoses and order medical tests. A physiotherapist in the UK is very similar to a Physical Therapist in the United States.

Available via Phone and Skype
19 Longley Lane
Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK
01484 452500
Survey Response / Website / Q&A Answers / Forum Profile / DVD and CD
Main Wiki Page About Georgie Oldfield
Miracles of Mindbody Medicine article
Why You Need to Stop Trying so Hard to Get Better
Insurance Accepted: Any plan that covers Physiotherapy costs, except BUPA.


Testimonials

Lettuce Dance said, "I eventually went to see Georgie Oldfield in Huddersfield in Yorkshire. It was a bit of a slog getting there, but it was well worth it. (Even filling out the pre-appointment assessment on my family, background and past illnesses was very revealing.)

I visited her in February, and felt an immediate improvement. For me, the fact that she comes from a physiotherapy background, and thoroughly understands the mechanics of one's body, was very helpful.

I chose to do her programme, which I followed in a fairly informal fashion, as I was bogged down with a big work project at the time. The programme included a series of follow-up appointments, which we did via Skype: these were really good. She went to great lengths to help me. I found her sympathetic and professional."
Here's a list of TMS practitioners in the UK:

http://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist#United_Kingdom (Find a TMS Doctor or Therapist)

Georgie Oldfield holds frequent conferences and has a TMS newsletter:

Georgina Oldfield, MCSP (Physiotherapist)

Georgie Oldfield is a physiotherapist based in the UK. She is the founder of SIRPA (The Stress Illness Recovery Practitioners Association), an organization dedicated to educating and training practitioners and other professionals in TMS treatment. Georgie is the organizer of SIRPA's inaugural conference, “Chronic Pain: to suppress, manage, or cure?”.

Georgie is the author of the 2014 TMS book Chronic Pain: Your Key to Recovery, which includes information about TMS as well as worksheets and exercises and stories from people who successfully overcame their TMS. She has also developed an online recovery program as well as a recovery CD, and runs monthly clinics in London.

In her survey response, Georgie writes:

“Despite being a Physiotherapist, Dr Sarno's concept and approach was not a surprise to me. For many years prior to coming across this work in 2007 I had been looking for the answer to the many inconsistencies I had been observing with my own patients. I had also already begun to realise that pain often did not appear to be related to the structural problems patients had been diagnosed with. Coming across TMS was an epiphany moment for me and has completely changed my whole understanding and therefore how I work. Having seen the remarkable and often life changing recoveries in my own patients, I am passionate about working with people with TMS/PPD and 100% of my time over the past few years has been developing this work and raising the profile in the UK.
“Since developing SIRPA I continue to work in a clinical role working with people who suffer from TMS/PPD. Although based in Yorkshire I also run regular assessment clinics in London and Bristol. Through SIRPA I also run training courses for other regulated Health Professionals in order to help them integrate this approach into their own work. Our aim is to raise the profile of this work by increasing the awareness of stress illness to the public and Practitioners as well as the Medical world.”
(Source)
A physiotherapist is very similar to a doctor, in that they can make diagnoses and order medical tests. A physiotherapist in the UK is very similar to a Physical Therapist in the United States.

Available via Phone and Skype
19 Longley Lane
Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK
01484 452500
Survey Response / Website / Q&A Answers / Forum Profile / DVD and CD
Main Wiki Page About Georgie Oldfield
Miracles of Mindbody Medicine article
Why You Need to Stop Trying so Hard to Get Better
Insurance Accepted: Any plan that covers Physiotherapy costs, except BUPA.


Testimonials

Lettuce Dance said, "I eventually went to see Georgie Oldfield in Huddersfield in Yorkshire. It was a bit of a slog getting there, but it was well worth it. (Even filling out the pre-appointment assessment on my family, background and past illnesses was very revealing.)

I visited her in February, and felt an immediate improvement. For me, the fact that she comes from a physiotherapy background, and thoroughly understands the mechanics of one's body, was very helpful.

I chose to do her programme, which I followed in a fairly informal fashion, as I was bogged down with a big work project at the time. The programme included a series of follow-up appointments, which we did via Skype: these were really good. She went to great lengths to help me. I found her sympathetic and professional."

I am saving this info for future possible use. Thanks so much for sharing.
 
Thank you Tom for the list of practitioners in the uk , i will look in to it .
I currently do not have any spare finances for such things .
But it is good to know that they are there !!

so thank you

Nelle x
 
Hi Nelle,

SEP is the Structured Educational Program on the wiki.org site.
http://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/Structured_Educational_Program (Structured Educational Program)
Maybe that is the one you are already doing?
My advice is to keep going and keep journaling. Don't worry about annoying your partner. You've got to get through this.
I never read Unlearn Your Pain.
I can totally relate to the part about resisting. I think part of resisting is judging ourselves and the pain, feeling like you have failed at TMS and being a perfectionist. You must have some patience and compassion for yourself. Realize your brain is fighting you. To me it feels like a little demon in my head causing trouble. I know if I am more stubborn that him I can win and it's been working. I've gone 1 month with no pain meds and just weaned off my preventative meds with no headaches. It's working.
When I was having headaches every day yes neck pain was a constant issue. I went to acupuncture, massage and chiro every week. It was such a relief but I was only getting worse. Once I started SEP I quit going and part of my Evidence Sheet was that I wasn't getting worse because I quit going so I figured it wasn't helping anyway. The neck pain is gone completely now and I used to lose a lot of sleep because I could never get comfortable.
Keep going, it will ease up.


Ah silly me , its what im already doing i see . You sound like you are doing so well , im really pleased for you !!!. The cure just seams so bizarre to me , that one can get better in that way . Or that our bodies would give us such trouble. I will stick with it . thanks so much for sharing . xx
 
I had neck pain all the time. I would massage it and it would get worse. If I saw a chiropractor or acupuncturist, it would go away briefly.

You might think this sounds strange but you might try telling yourself that you know there is nothing wrong with you and you are very healthy.

Then try telling your inner child that you know what it's trying to do (distract you) and you won't tolerate this anymore. Then deliberately focus on something that scares or angers you.

This worked for me. It improves gradually. You also might want to read the Sarno book several more times and underline the things that remind you of yourself.


Great advice , im doing what you've said and also holding a
point on my hand as instructed in the unlearn your pain book . Its a point that is meant to help reprogram the brain . xx
 
Thank you all, its so good not to feel so alone with it and to know that other people have got better .
Love to you all on your journey .
 
Ah silly me , its what im already doing i see . You sound like you are doing so well , im really pleased for you !!!. The cure just seams so bizarre to me , that one can get better in that way . Or that our bodies would give us such trouble. I will stick with it . thanks so much for sharing . xx
I know the cure seems bizarre. It only seems so because we have been programmed otherwise since we were very young. It's difficult to keep your mind open enough to let it work. Once it starts working, and it will, you will be so inspired. Keep trying Nelle.
 
Nelle, there are ever deepening levels of understanding TMS, everyone goes through them, as I still am. Consciousness expands as we open our hearts to accept what already is. I just wanted to say that as you more deeply understand yourself (which is how TMS healing occurs) you will discover that this type of question is a problem in healing. There are no "types" of pain once you get deeper into it. There is no difference between anxiety or back or hand or foot or head pain, etc. As you crawl down into the rabbit hole ever further you will see that asking for certain types of pain, or wanting to see "segmentation of symptoms" is languishing in futility. At that point you'll begin to move ahead again. A headache is no different than an ulcer. The desire to see them as different is problematic, but it does enable us to connect to others in order to ease our fear. It's ok to ask, but understand the problem.
 
Thank you Tom for the list of practitioners in the uk , i will look in to it .
I currently do not have any spare finances for such things .
But it is good to know that they are there !!

so thank you

Nelle x
If you feel you need the help of a TMS practitioner, don't let finances stop you. Explain your situation and they will likely work-out a postponed payment plan, or help you pro-bono. TMS practitioners are used to working with sufferers who have been financially wiped out by ALL the other modalities they have spent their money on. TMS is usually only a small part of any physician's or counselor's practice due to so few people willing to accept the DX. They may be glad to find someone to practice on.
 
Nelle, there are ever deepening levels of understanding TMS, everyone goes through them, as I still am. Consciousness expands as we open our hearts to accept what already is. I just wanted to say that as you more deeply understand yourself (which is how TMS healing occurs) you will discover that this type of question is a problem in healing. There are no "types" of pain once you get deeper into it. There is no difference between anxiety or back or hand or foot or head pain, etc. As you crawl down into the rabbit hole ever further you will see that asking for certain types of pain, or wanting to see "segmentation of symptoms" is languishing in futility. At that point you'll begin to move ahead again. A headache is no different than an ulcer. The desire to see them as different is problematic, but it does enable us to connect to others in order to ease our fear. It's ok to ask, but understand the problem.
I do see what you mean , but i think when one is at the beginning of opening oneself to recovery and diagnosis of tms , it is helpful to know that it has worked for people who have had similar problems . Evidence
 
I do see what you mean , but i think when one is at the beginning of opening oneself to recovery and diagnosis of tms , it is helpful to know that it has worked for people who have had similar problems . Evidence
You are right Nelle. When I was in so much pain and trying to learn about TMS, so much was focused on back pain and RSI. I would search so much and be so disappointed when I found so few success stories that dealt with headaches. That was the reason I wrote my success story for people going through that.

But, of course, Steve is so right! It doesn't matter and in hindsight it will hold you back because it focuses on the physical. You need to get to the point where you stop thinking about the physical and realize it's psychological. You are feeding the pain by worrying about symptoms. You are a healthy woman whose brain is playing tricks on you. You can make it stop.
 
This forum sooo resonated with me! I have been having pressure towards the back of my head for a few years now. It is so good to read other people's descriptions of similar experiences (I'm not the only crazy one after all!), and to know that it does get better. Thank you all for sharing!
 
Hello Lady Phoenix and Ines

No idea what sep is ? , sounds interesting !!!
I have not read the great pain deception .
I have read the mind body prescription , which got my interest but didn't seam to bring about much change in me .
Im on the 4th week of this sites wiki program.
In the first there weeks i had alot of problems with my partner because i became so angry and journaling about our relationships spilled out into my daily feelings about him.
We were arguing alot !!! , and were close to splitting up , we then went on a two week holiday and are a bit better again . Im concerned if i start journaling again for the wiki we will argue again .
I have the book unlearn your pain at home , which im considering doing after the structured program if im not improved enough.( did either of you know of this one ?).
I really wanted to watch the doc Sarno lectures , i looked in to it ,not so easy from uk .
After some research i tracked it down to a website were you can order it ( the website said it was not affiliated with dr sarno ) and the dvd was very expensive plus overseas postage.

My head pressure , headaches and weird sensations are a constant with varying degrees of getting my attention.
The worry that its never going to go ,makes every thing worse as it makes me feel trapped and claustrophobic in my own body .
The more i resist it the worse or want it to go away the worse it feels when it dosen't .
I have had lots of tms problems in the past ... ME,muscle pain , anxiety ,stomach problems ,and coxics pain and sciatica .
All of which i recovered from not knowing they were tms related at all.
Its quite funny really i was given both the books mentioned above when i had sciatic pain but they just went on the shelf .
So when i started to read about tms , in connection with head symptoms i was surprised to find i already had the books !!!,

Did either of you get neck and back of the head ache when you had it bad . ?

Thanks so much for sharing with me i really appreciate it .!!

Nelle x
Hey, I’m having the same things as you along with pressure. Did you ever get better?
 
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