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New Program Day 1: Introduction

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Alan Gordon LCSW, Jul 11, 2017.

  1. Rachel110885

    Rachel110885 New Member

    Hi Jules I hope you’re doing well. I feel like our stories are very similar. I’ve overcome back pain and headaches. Now I have chronic nausea. Do you have any tips? It’s horrible feeling like you’re on the verge of vomiting all day every day. i’ve obviously had all tests done and everything comes back normal.
     
  2. Hally

    Hally Newcomer

    Thank you so so much
     
  3. DLO2GO

    DLO2GO Newcomer

    Hello. I joined today. Do we follow along for 21 days or go at our own pace or how does this work? Thanks
     
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  4. Cap'n Spanky

    Cap'n Spanky Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi @DLO2GO - you can absolutely go at your own pace.

    I went through the whole thing one time, relatively quickly. Then I circled back, going very slowly and re-writing the concepts in my own words.
     
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  5. DLO2GO

    DLO2GO Newcomer

    Thanks Tim
     
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  6. Merv

    Merv Newcomer

    I am open and hopeful.
     
  7. 1speechpick

    1speechpick New Member

    I really hope this helps me. I'm suffering so much with awful headaches.
     
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  8. MB-1953

    MB-1953 Newcomer

    I presently suffer with numbness/tingling in my left hand and right fingertips, I was examined at NYU langone and diagnosed with TMS. Do the concepts and exercises of this program apply to my symptoms as well? My conditions started 3 months ago. Do I just substitute pain with numbness? Thanks.
     
  9. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hello @MB-1953 and welcome. If you are completely new to the concepts of TMS, the best way to learn about it is to read one of the books written by Dr. John Sarno, MD, who was a physiatrist and chief of rehab at the Rusk Institute/NYU School of Medicine.

    You are presenting with something other than back pain, so I would recommend his third book The MindBody Prescription (1998) or his last book The Divided Mind (2006, with additional chapters by five other MDs and a psychologist).

    Then come back to the main tmswiki.org website, start doing the free Structured Educational Program, and come back here to the forum to read Success Stories and engage with this community. It will all make a LOT more sense once you've read Dr. Sarno. He's a compelling writer, as you will see from thousands of five-star reviews.
     
  10. jhc1013

    jhc1013 New Member

    What ever happened to Dr. Sarno’s research that showed pain was caused by the subconscious mind cutting off the flow of blood to certain muscles in the body.
     
  11. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Dr Sarno was a clinician and I'm not sure that his oxygen deprivation was anything other than that - a theory.

    What do our Sarno experts say?

    I personally found "oxygen deprivation" to be briefly useful when I was just getting started, but I stopped considering it pretty quickly as I accessed additional resources about neuroscience and started to understand the stress response. These days I am much more focused on the inflammatory response to stress. But that's just me!
     
  12. sjhoek

    sjhoek Newcomer

    After 25 years and 20 surgeries ....trying to keep an open mind
     
  13. nnelg

    nnelg New Member

     
  14. kimbob369

    kimbob369 Peer Supporter

    Hi Everyone!
    I am back(DAY 1) after over 4 years since finding the TMS wiki and doing this program by Alan Gordon.
    I had had symptoms receding a great deal for a couple of months after completion of the program back in 2020, but they came back and I lost mental momentum. Since that time, I have restarted a couple of other times here but never finished.

    I have new resolve and am doing this program today collectively with a small group of folks from a private group I host not associated with this site.
    I have had a significant flare in the last few months and am grappling with head to toe symptoms. I know through all of the work I have done educating myself that all of it is TMS, but have many negative emotions around it all.

    I have enjoyed reading through all of the posts on this thread finding much hope and community :)
     
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  15. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    That is awesome, @kimbob369! I think a lot of us would be really interested in how this goes. Just this morning I was envisioning what it might be like to have a local book group in person, to read Dr Mate's newest book... not that I will do that anytime soon, but perhaps in a different living situation in the future.

    Welcome back!
     
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  16. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

  17. Ella1234

    Ella1234 Newcomer

    I'm still not sure if my foot pain is TMS. It's been 3 months since a sprained ankle and I'm on crutches and waiting for an MRI scan. Consultant said it could be a hairline fracture, roughness of joint, or bone marrow edema. Regardless of the outcome, how will I know if it is TMS causing the pain? I'm fully onboard with the TMS idea as I cured my wrists with Dr S book 10yrs ago. The wrists started up again after a week of crutches, and after resting them for 3 weeks I remembered the TMS theory so I'm working on that theory to recover them.... But the ankle is so different and I have had so many 'relapses' from overdoing it I'm so confused.....
     
  18. Cheryl

    Cheryl Peer Supporter

    A sprain is healed by now. It’s TMS and fear that something is wrong. Treat it as mind body.
     
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  19. Ella1234

    Ella1234 Newcomer

    Thank you. So should I drop all supports like crutches and bandages, or keep them until the pain subsides whilst I do the TMS work?!
     
  20. Rusty Red

    Rusty Red Well known member

    Things like meds, crutches, bandages, you're going to get mixed answers. Some people will say you need to drop it all to fully invest in the TMS diagnosis. I use the perspective that you can use those things as long as you remember they are not fixing your problem, they are just helping you manage your symptoms while you work through TMS.
     
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