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Steve, I think I've exhausted recalling things from my past that could trigger TSM and have journaled about them and forgiven parents and others.

I feel as if my pain is reduced maybe in half, but now I will focus on what may be the main reasons for my pain. Financial problems have been with me for years but are heightened recently, just keeping up with the mortgage so I don't lose my house, and credit card debt. The other main thing is my mortality, which I began thinking about when I turned 80 and I'm 82.5 now. But I think I am getting a handle on both... trying not to worry so much about either. So I'll work on those. Thanks again.
 
I've read that we don't have to solve a reason for anger or anxiety, just recognize it, so maybe that will help with both financial worries and concern about mortality.
 
Steve, how about this from C.S. Lewis:


"Has this world been so kind to you that you should leave with regret? There are better things ahead than any we leave behind."

I guess I'm not doing too bad. Today I drove to do grocery shopping at two supermarkets, got a flu shot at an Osco pharmacy, mailed a package at a post office and felt only minor pain in the back. Sitting makes that go away. I thought my subconscious was letting up on me because of all the childhood anxt and journaling about it. It may have helped, but I think my Type A worrying about bills and losing the house (both of which I lived with in spades when I was growing up) needs dealing with now. And accepting my mortality when (no longer "if") it comes.

 
Walt, I'm glad you ran around with errands today! Good job. Don't let your brain get in the way of living. Plus, if you had only minor pain then you're better off than most folks. Also, you now know that if your pain can decrease that it can leave altogether. If we are in pain due to structural failure it must get worse, not better.Your pain leaving when you sit is strictly a conditioned response.

Also, Walt, I forgot to mention that financial worries are one of the biggest causes of pain, that I've seen. I talked about it on page 256. It's now being labeled as "debt-stress." This makes sense because TMS comes from the SNS fight/flight/freeze mechanism of self survival, and finances are a part of surviving. We don't love money, but we do love to eat.

And don't forget, all of these "events" we screen through the eyes of a child, and people like you who went through the worst of financial times have money on their minds often because you lived through the horror of a great depression. Both the lack of money and having money can buy experience. Both of which are "priceless"--ironic huh?

I love CS Lewis, he's a personal hero of mine. I quoted him but I quoted everybody haha. One of my favorite Lewis quotes is, " “Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: "What! You too? I thought I was the only one.”

The same is true for TMS. People share the same life.

Steve
 
Walt, I'm glad you ran around with errands today! Good job. Don't let your brain get in the way of living. Plus, if you had only minor pain then you're better off than most folks. Also, you now know that if your pain can decrease that it can leave altogether. If we are in pain due to structural failure it must get worse, not better.Your pain leaving when you sit is strictly a conditioned response.

Also, Walt, I forgot to mention that financial worries are one of the biggest causes of pain, that I've seen. I talked about it on page 256. It's now being labeled as "debt-stress." This makes sense because TMS comes from the SNS fight/flight/freeze mechanism of self survival, and finances are a part of surviving. We don't love money, but we do love to eat.

And don't forget, all of these "events" we screen through the eyes of a child, and people like you who went through the worst of financial times have money on their minds often because you lived through the horror of a great depression. Both the lack of money and having money can buy experience. Both of which are "priceless"--ironic huh?

I love CS Lewis, he's a personal hero of mine. I quoted him but I quoted everybody haha. One of my favorite Lewis quotes is, " “Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: "What! You too? I thought I was the only one.”

The same is true for TMS. People share the same life.

Steve

Yes, your telling me to look into my past revealed the financial insecurities I grew up with during the 1930s Great Depression. I've even told myself I might live through another one, and sure enough, I am. Relatives have lost their homes and I worry I might lose mine. I've kept it month to month so far and will keep trying to pay the mortgage each month.

And wouldn't you know, this morning a nephew emailed me that a cousin my age just died.

As the Morton Salt slogan says, "It never rains but it pours."
 
And about having money and not having it... One of my very best friends... we were like brothers... was rich but never seemed happy. He had his share of life's troubles. He always had back pain too, but thought it came from being too small to play football in prep school. I now think he had TSM from his childhood because I knew his parents. Want a laugh? His father was so henpecked, he joined Chenault's Flying Tigers to fight the Japanese before we got into the war. He did it to escape his wife, but left his son, my buddy, fatherless for years and at home with a smothering mother. Tim married and had three kids but his wife had bad emotional problems (rejection from her mother). But that's another story.

I feel you and I have become friends.
 
Justina my book is on Kindle. I don't own a Kindle but quite a few people in England wanted the book converted so I did it. Someday I may get one but I'm sooo tired of reading right now. I may do an audio book soon. It was hearing Dr. Sarno's voice that catapulted me forward.


Steve Ozanich

Any update on that audiobook Steve?
I have audiobook of HBP and it iss Sarnos authoritative voice that is helping me. trying to overcome doubt in the diagnosis is a huge thing because its not an accepted mainstream theory. it is interesting that mainstream theory is that chronic pain is somewhat normal and therefore must be managed. a few of my close relations have graduated from top UK medical schools so have tried explaining to them the concept. blank stares and ''we know that already'' is the typical reaction.
 
I will start the audiobook again March 1. It got delayed after I helped one of the top marketers in the world heal. He sent me in a new direction for awhile, but the audio is very important. My plan is to have it done by May, but my plans rarely work, out so who knows.

Many health practitioners know about psychosomatic problems but they're afraid to tell the patients because the patients get angry and find new doctors. It also takes more time dealing with a mindbody patient than they prefer to spend, so both patient and doctor opt for the quick fix. It's a perfect failure. The TMS docs are brave people.

Overcoming doubt in the process is the healing goal. As doubt is erased the pain fades. We are what we believe for good or bad. But it's not about healing the body. That's the biggest mistake people make.
 
I'll just add that I'm really looking forward to the audiobook, as well! :) Like Steve, I've found audiobooks to be very helpful in my recovery. I'm about 3/4 of the way through the paperback version of TGPD and it is very, very good. Steve is a very important and articulate voice in the TMS community and we're lucky to have him.
 
just listening to an audiobook of Carl Jungs Memories Dreams and Reflections and was blown away when he describes what seems to be his own overcoming of Mindbody symtpoms. listen here. he had fainting spells to avoid school and doing homework leading to his staying away for 6 months.
When he overheard his father discussing his son's 'illness' with a friend and hearing the worry in his fathers voice and concern for Carls ability to earn his living. from that moment he embraced his studies with verve. ten minutes into the study he fainted, picked himself up and again 15minutes later he fainted once more. He willed himself once more and an hour the third fainting spell occurred. He did not give up and suddenly felt that he overcome the attacks of fainting and they never came back.
unbelievable.

 
Hello,

I healed from 27 years of pain and a wide variety of other health problems 11 years ago, after finding Dr. Sarno’s work. The good doctor saved my life, and I have dedicated my life to helping others heal. Everyone experiences pain and unpleasant symptoms at some point in their lives. But when these things alter the quality of life they need to be addressed. The pain is not only diverting the mind’s awareness but is also sending a message of imbalance. Many who are suffering try to piece together this thing called TMS; often confused by what to do, and by conflicting messages. If you are suffering, be of great cheer because healing can occur, it is occurring, and anyone can heal if that is what they unconsciously desire. TMS healing is an esoteric process accepted only by a fortunate few.

I suffered a life altering ordeal with TMS. Today—I’m pain-symptom-free and very happy thanks to the good doctor. Last week, I had a phone conversation with Forest about TMS; its current state, its future, Dr. Sarno’s impact, and other TMS topics. It was a lengthy talk, and the main theme was: how can we help people who are suffering? The only way is to provide access to the information about TMS and try to expand that information to the general public through increasing awareness. This TMS Wiki is a great platform for those who are currently seeking answers.

Forest contacted me because I recently published a book on TMS called The Great Pain Deception: Faulty Medical Advice Is Making Us Worse. It is a detailed look at TMS, and the reasons for rejection of TMS that took me 10 years to research and write. I was mentored along the way by the good doctor’s close friend, Marc Sopher, MD.—an excellent TMS physician and great person that I’m honored to call friend. The first third of my book is about my own story/struggle and ultimate victory over suffering using Dr. Sarno’s work as my guide. The middle third is what people need to understand to heal using a wide variety of real life healing examples, and the last part of the book is about life, and childhood, and all those incremental steps that form our personalities that can lead us into the TMS-abyss. The Great Pain Deception shows the many bumpy roads into TMS, and the many roads out. It has been reviewed and endorsed by MDs, Sarno, Sopher, Northrup, Pelletier, Travis, Anderson, and Miller.

How did we get here? John E. Sarno, MD, through great insight and the deep desire to heal his patients had discovered decades ago that something was amiss when it came to healing people who were suffering. He had noted that modern therapeutic modalities weren’t working in the majority of sufferers; that there was something else “going on” within those patients. Being an insightful observer, he noted common denominators within them, similar causes and effects that necessitated their symptoms. He came to realize that tension/hidden anger was the source of most all of our health problems from pain to anxiety, dermatological to gastrointestinal, immune to circulatory, fatigue to allergies. People who tried to be good people, and to make everything perfect were suffering at higher rates because they were placing greater demands on themselves, generating great anger that got buried by the persona within their unconscious minds/bodies. The good doctor’s dogged determination to seek the truth has become his legacy as a healer. His 4 books, Mind Over Back Pain, Healing Back Pain, The Mindbody Prescription, and The Divided Mind have changed the way we now view our health and have created a whole new industry, jump started many new careers, and launched a sea of books on the topic. I hope that the good doctor’s contribution is never forgotten or diminished in any way. My own book is a tribute to all of his work and the many other pioneers who also understood that thoughts and emotions caused effects/symptoms, and that the mind and the body were synonymous by nature.

Where are we now? Dr. Sarno is now the avuncular gentle-man that we know today; the discoverer of one of the greatest insights in medical history. What was that discovery? That people’s lives, past and present, attitudes and fears, were the causes of most of their current health problems. He initially labeled this discovery TMS. His personal desire was to eventually have the acronym TMS replaced with PNPS, Psychogenic Neural Pain Syndrome. But he has been using an interim/transitional term, TPS, for Tension Psychogenic Syndrome. However, there are currently over a dozen different replacement acronyms for TMS, each one coined by a new author who has embraced the good doctor’s work and now made it their own. It should never be forgotten that all the variations began with the initial term, TMS, and that the newer versions are all variations on the original concept.

Sadly, Dr. Sarno has now retired, leaving behind a beautiful career. But his legacy will live on in the lives of all of us who have healed, and through the professional practices of many others who are now integrating his life’s work into their fields.

I’ve recently completed a national radio tour for my book, of syndicated radio stations in New York, Memphis, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Hartford, Boston, and Los Angeles. The result was always the same; people believe that TMS is true for everybody but themselves. They understand the concept but reject it when it comes to their own health because their doctor told them they had a bad knee or back or shoulder, or broken sinus. The inundation of false medical advice over the past 70 years has created what Dr. Sarno rightfully labeled a “nation of the partially disabled.” Sufferers simply cannot think outside the box as they limp and stumble daily over old knowledge.

The most difficult part of spreading the TMS message is the ego-driven resistance to anything that people cannot immediately understand, and because of the fact that people really want to believe their doctor is right. Physicians are the ones who create our healthcare realities. If that reality is based on a false assumption the suffering spreads and only those with vested interested come out ahead. Based on misinformation of the past, people are stubbornly clinging to false realities and refusing to believe their bodies are ok physically, protected by the TMS itself—the safe haven in which they can hide.

Fibromyalgia sufferers are more often hostile to the mindbody message. Many that I have approached attack me like badgers if TMS is even mentioned. It’s clear why they react this way—but the reason for the response is multifaceted. I can see varying reasons in different people.

Dr. Sarno has called TMS a protection mechanism. The pain or unpleasant symptom diverts the mind’s eye away from emotions that are too powerful, too sad, or too threatening. So the brain feels it is providing a favor to the individual by allowing him to not have to face any violent, shameful, guilt-ridden thoughts and emotions; thereby protecting not only the sufferer, but also those around him. And—since fibromyalgia is simply a more severe form of TMS it stands to reason that people would indeed reject the notion of TMS more vociferously. If the symptom exists to protect them from painful emotions and since fibromyalgia is a more severe form of TMS, then it’s clear why fibro sufferers would be abnormally hostile at the notion that there may be emotions in-play just outside their awareness. When the truth threatens to breakthrough it must be condemned by the conscious mind—the more painful the truth the greater the condemnation must be.

And so we have this elegant message of TMS that works “virtually every time” and yet most people will not accept it because of the false memes that have been planted in their subconscious. I called Dr. Sarno to tell him my message was being met with great resistance and he laughed and said, “Well…good luck.” There wasn't much he could say. He had been met with great resistance to the truth over his entire career by laymen and colleagues alike. So the main question remains, how do we expand the message from here?

Mindbody professionals understand that TMS healing is not a passive modality like giving an injection or handing out a pill. It is something that must be accepted by the sufferers, it cannot be “given” to them. She must be willing to open up to the possibility that her symptoms may be emotion-driven. But as Dr. Sarno once again insightfully declared, “One of the unfortunate realities about working with a disorder like TMS is that most people will reject the idea until they are desperate for a solution.” Early on Dr. Sopher advised me not to argue with people over TMS. The emperor has no clothes. You either see it or you don’t. I have followed his advice closely and only spend my energy and time explaining the process to those who are curious. I walk away from people who want to argue the validity of TMS. Beware the pit-bull and the fibro sufferer, each may turn and bite at any moment—both out of instinct.

What is the future of TMS? The future was a main reason that Forest contacted me. He felt that the message could best be spread if we worked together; the pain groups, physicians, psychologists, therapists, counselors, authors and past sufferers. There is strength in numbers. The problem I see is the message getting fragmented, diluted, confusing those who may be open and interested. The biggest danger for the future of TMS healing is if professionals begin sending mixed messages as to what is physical vs. what is psychological—obfuscating the message. One of the reasons Dr. Sarno had so much success was that he stayed steady on his message through the years, only adding value to it as his awareness expanded.

The greatest impact on society must be through the medical professionals themselves. Word of mouth on the ground is important but is not integrated as swiftly and powerfully as when the message comes through a position of authority. Another great help may be mass media like Michael Galinsky’s film on Dr. Sarno’s work, “Story of Pain.” Anything and everything will be helpful in telling the world about the mindbody syndrome. I wish Michael good luck on his project; he’s a great guy with great intentions and a big megaphone.

There are two TMS “healing basics” that should never be meddled with. First, the most important aspect in healing that should be emphasized is a full belief in the process. If the sufferer cannot get past doubt, deep healing can’t take place. Doubt must slowly be erased through repetition and reinforcement. Second, the desire to heal people should be out of compassion. Part of the cause of suffering today is that healers in the past became distant and took the patient out of the healing equation, foisting upon him advanced medical procedures as surrogates for the physician’s time, listening ear, and powerful touch. Throwing drugs and surgeries and injections and therapies at pain removes the most vital aspect in healing, which is the sufferer himself. As Majid Ali, MD stated, “If a physician can shut up for long enough, the patient will tell him what is wrong….The chronically ill have an intuitive-visceral sense of what is wrong with them.” Deep within they have buried the reason for the current problem due to a covert process called repression.

Dr. Sarno also stated that medicine was much better 80 and 90 years ago. The proof that he is correct is shown by the fact that we have the greatest medical advancements in history and yet the epidemic grows worse every decade. Our health is by-and-large an effect of the strength of our personal relationships, past and present. When we take the individual’s life out of the healing solution we remove the most powerful healer with it. Healthcare took a nosedive in the United States when the bedside manner disappeared and was replaced with M & Ms: machines and medications. With the PPDA there is renewed hope to get the patient back into the healing process and to witness a reversal of the relationship between the professional and the patient. The move should be back to patient… from client.

Hopefully with this Wiki and the other TMS groups like TMS Help and Rapid Recovery, the information provided by foot soldiers on the ground will always be available to answer questions for anyone who is willing to open their mind with a deep desire to heal.Also, the great hope is that more TMS healers begin to pop up around the world as the truth spreads.

Finally, I would like to quickly convey a common problem and typical complaint I hear regarding mindbody healing. Typically it is stated, “I finished reading Dr. Sarno’s book last month and my pain is still here, what am I doing wrong!?!” Pity me that the heart is slow to learn. The faster you try to heal the slower you often heal. Healing is more of a transformational process through self-individuation; a series of steps forward often followed by a few steps back. The concept is not to take the pain away but to take the reason for the pain away through the expansion of natural knowledge. Dr. Sarno stated in the 2004 Medscape interview, “I do not have an approach to dealing with pain but rather the stresses that cause it.” Trying to take pain away is once again focusing on the pain by monitoring progress. A watched pot never boils and a monitored back never heals. People try to heal too fast and the anger and frustration that accompany the feeling of failure generates more anger and tension which further slows healing, and the pain loop continues. It is the paradox of healing. We spend every waking second focused on our health to our own detriment. Every TV ad and most of the health websites are set up to keep people in fear. They are marketing experts playing on the fears of everyone who is in doubt. One website headline recently read, “Your current good health and wellbeing could be hiding a very serious disease!” It’s the business of marketing sickness. If we could only learn how to live instead of how not to die we could be much healthier and happier.

So the future of TMS in general depends on how the message is delivered and who delivers it, combined with a common voice, all with the purpose of undoing the damage done by the medical business over the past century. I cannot recall a single back pain sufferer over the past 11 years who hasn’t agreed with TMS, but has followed up that same agreement with, “Yes, but I have degenerated discs and multiple herniations, my doctor told me I did.” It will take great patience and persistence to overcome the damage already done.

Over the past 11 years I’ve answered approximately 35, 000 emails on TMS, perhaps many more, and I’ve spoken live on the radio to millions of people about the TMS mindbody process. The main question people ask is, “Ok… I see the point… but what do I do??” That question doesn’t have an easy answer because the human brain is involved. We all learn differently. Our biases and fears, beliefs and biographies are all different. I hope, with the formation of the PPDA, and the existence of the TMS Wiki, TMS Help, and Rapid Recovery that all these questions will be answered as the questions arise. The move is on and it’s a great step forward. It is a return to healing that includes the sufferer who got himself into his current state, and only he can get himself back out. But he needs the guiding compass of knowledgeable and compassionate teachers. The Latin word for doctor means, “to teach.”

Good luck, and know that healing can take place if the belief is deep enough. It’s not always simple knowledge that heals people; it often takes much work and repetition, and patience. I’ve helped hundreds to heal and you can heal too. Sometimes lives, lifestyles and perceptions must change, but in the end it’s worth it. Pain has no place to hide in a person who is deeply happy and fulfilled, absent of conflict and armed with the correct information.

I will try to answer any questions here if I can. If you doubt you can heal don’t worry, most of us who healed also doubted. Answers are all around to assist you. If you want to heal, you will heal. This is the good news.

Happiness first and good health will certainly follow…

Steven Ray Ozanich
The Great Pain Deception

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Amazing that I decided to come back to this thread and last few comments were about CS Lewis who was born not far from me in Ireland. I've been studying him for a few days....synchronicity or chance?
 
Good question, are things by luck or preformed? To quote Jung, "Whatever is not conscious will be experienced as fate."

I talked about Jung's fainting spells in GPD. He fainted when he needed to get out of things, like people get TMS when they just don't wanna...
 
Was listening to your webinar Steve and you mentioned a relative was over in Galway, Ireland. If you're ever back in Gods country let us know! Haha
 
Markus,

Steve's book gave me my life back. After struggling with chronic foot pain for over twenty years, I'm now pain-free and jogging almost every day (refer to my success story for details). Steve is a saint in my opinion - I cannot thank him enough.

While Dr Sarno planted the seed for healing, it was Steve's book that gave me the tools and courage for recovery I needed. Of all the TMS healing books, his is by far the best.

When reading his book I managed to get in touch with him, and he was ALWAYS responsive when I reached out for support. We are all so grateful for his ongoing support on this forum.
 
Fibromyalgia patients suffer more than you could imagine. SECONDARY GAIN,you are ignorant. Maybe it's the way you spread the message, I know the personal parts of your book are tedious.
It's not for the beginning TMSER, you come across as a know it all and people notice. I won't read ur book.
Cheers -
Sorry Markus but your way off and to be honest we don't need that type of negativity on this forum. Steve is a great man who has done a hell of a lot for the tms community and has answered me every time I've emailed him with a question (and always a very thorough and well thought out answer.) I also didn't have any money because of medical bills a while back and he helped me out and Skyped with me for 3 hours! ALL of the best advice and information I've got about tms and healing has come from him. If you don't like what he has to say keep it to yourself so other people aren't discouraged to read his book. I enjoyed every page.
 
Thanks Steve, your comments are very help-full! As is your book. As a (former) fibro-badger I can understand the resentful attitude some have - I think we get so fixated IN our symptoms it is hard to peer out over the parapet. I have two friends with fibro who just don't see it and who now don't really want to know me - I am too healthy/working/happy - it is another pain for them to bear. I just have to shrug and hope they one day see it. I see TMS in so many people suffering around me - relatives, friends, neighbours - but even tho' people ask 'How did you get better?' - they just zone out and don't really listen and you can see them thinking 'You are a screwball'! It is extremely frustrating as I think we all have suffered and understand the suffering and want to go and help everyone else to get better too. But perhaps that also is a trait of our goodism/perfectionism/like me personalities!
So now I will tell people if they ask - otherwise I keep schtum. But I have had loads of little stickers about TMS made that I stick anywhere people might see them - toilet doors, traffic meters, pharmacy windows.....This makes me feel that I am doing something positive to help.
Danielle, I too got fibro after a 'neck' injury in a car crash - 22 years of pain/wheelchair/etc but now I am pain-free 95% of the time - and whenever pain appears I 'TMS' it and regain my life - so take heart and keep on with it - you will get there!
 
Sorry Markus but your way off and to be honest we don't need that type of negativity on this forum. Steve is a great man who has done a hell of a lot for the tms community and has answered me every time I've emailed him with a question (and always a very thorough and well thought out answer.) I also didn't have any money because of medical bills a while back and he helped me out and Skyped with me for 3 hours! ALL of the best advice and information I've got about tms and healing has come from him. If you don't like what he has to say keep it to yourself so other people aren't discouraged to read his book. I enjoyed every page.
I think you're way off....I'm glad you got free attention, I can't even get an answer to a question I asked him about what he meant in a statement on a thread. You know I don't usually get upset for no reason, and when I do there is a reason.
I've read his book....tiring! Aren't you the dude that "jokingly offered me a link to porn sites? And that was what? You don't have to like what I say, but I'm usually right.
I'm going through my own STUFF. so why don't you turn the volume down. I won't discuss this anymore,I can have my opinions.............there isn't anyone who's got it all figured out. You should keep your opinion to youself. Have you ever once tried to talk to me about what I'm going through? No, you come out to attack me when I disagree with someone you consider very important! Either way, I said what I said and I meant it
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