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Discussion in 'Support Subforum' started by Carmela, Jul 6, 2014.

  1. Carmela

    Carmela New Member

    I am new to this forum, but not new to TMS or Dr. Sarno. I found his books many years ago and realized this is what I was wrong with me. I used the techniques to help relieve back pain.

    I am now dealing with migraine headaches and IBS. I should not say, NOW because I have had them both since I was 12 years old. Lately, though, the usual medicine has not been helping. I am on a few Facebook pages for migraine sufferers. The more I read them the more I realize :
    1. I feel worse when the entries are telling of so much pain.
    2. Nothing helps
    3. We all suffer from anxiety worrying about when the migraines will start or when they will stop
    4. Worrying about anything brings on IBS
    5. I need support and encouragement. Right now I have none!

    My daughter also suffered from Migraine headaches. She went from having daily migraines, to having to go to the ER and Morphine didn't help!!!!! I told her that when nothing helps, it's not physical. I have believed that even before I read Dr. Sarno's book, but he gave credibility to it all.

    Since I am in the throws of a week long migraine, in which nothing is helping, I think it is time to reinforce the TMS techniques. If anyone can help me or support me or encourage me, I would appreciate it immensely!! Thank you and God bless all of you!
  2. yb44

    yb44 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi Carmela - welcome to this forum!

    I saw your post on another thread about no one responding to this thread. I'm sorry no one has replied before now and I hope this hasn't put you off. We are hear to 'listen' and 'hear' you. Sometimes you hit a lull where no one responds right away which isn't so great when you are in so much pain and want some support.

    Have you been thoroughly checked over by a doctor for all of your symptoms? This is the first step if you haven't done so already.

    When I first read Healing Back Pain, it did help initially with my sciatica but like you I suffered from chronic migraines. I was really interested when Dr Sarno wrote about his own experience of eradicating his migraines using the TMS approach. However for me it is a symptom that hangs on for dear life. I had my first migraine headache when I was 19 years old. The trigger was a bad relationship break-up where I was left seething with anger. What I remember distinctly about that first episode is not the pain but the fear. I thought I was going to die. Since learning about TMS I have focused on the triggers whenever I do have this type of pain. Generally the triggers involve anger, resentment and strain.

    As for the forums on migraines, I would avoid these like the plague. The one time I looked at one a forum member mentioned how they thought their migraines were caused by stress. It was a very general, innocent post but it was answered by another person who was extremely aggressive towards the original poster and basically told her where to go. She was absolutely emphatic that her migraines were caused by diet, etc. She was so vehement and vicious that a moderator posted next. He told the angry lady that everyone was different and just because she didn't feel that a particular line of thinking was helpful, this didn't mean it couldn't be helpful to someone else. He told her to go back to her corner and cool off.

    All symptoms are connected but I find that migraines and IBS in particular tend to go hand in glove. I often waver between the two myself.

    Getting back to what I was saying above about fear - in your third point you mention this yourself, how anxiety over when the next migraine will occur or how long one will last seems to take over and dominate your mind. Learning to self-sooth, cutting myself some slack if I have been beating myself up over something, finding activity that I enjoy doing and engaging in this activity regardless of whether I have pain are all techniques I have used to eliminate that anxiety and obsession. When I first began my journey I was taking a beta blocker and a reliever drug. I stopped the former medication a few years ago and only take the reliever drug about half as much as I used to do. Every time I do take it I tend to regret because of the side effects so eventually I will eliminate the drug completely.

    Recovery takes time. There is no one right way to achieve this, no one-size-fits-all approach. Keep reading posts, asking questions and keeping us informed. Check out these links if you would like something more structured to start you on your way.

    General information and success stories:
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  3. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi Carmela,

    I had migraines for over 50 years, and there were times when I averaged 15 per month. At the time I learned about TMS I was having 3-4 a month. After about 9 months of using TMS healing techniques, I stopped having migraines, and haven't had one for about 6 months now. It is possible to get rid of migraines using these techniques! yb44 has given you excellent information above to get you started on your road to healing. Just take it one day at a time and realize that the amount of time it takes to be healed from TMS is different for everyone. And I agree--stay away from websites/forums about migraines. They will only hinder your progress.

    And Welcome to the Forum! Keep us posted on how you are doing and feel free to ask questions at any time.
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  4. Leslie735

    Leslie735 Well known member

    Welcome to the TMS forums! You will find great support and really nice people here!
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  5. Eric "Herbie" Watson

    Eric "Herbie" Watson Beloved Grand Eagle

    Carmela, this is for the anxiety and your nerves. It will also be great for your tension that is creating those headaches, like loosing the self pressure ok. If you look at study these tools from both Drs. You will see great news.....

    Here is just some of Claire's Wisdom -- these are some of her most famous tools

    Dos and Don’ts
    1. Do not run away from fear. Analyze it and see it as no more then physical feelings. Feelings are not facts, do not be bluffed.
    2. Accept all strange sensations connected with your illness. Do not
    fight them. Float past them. Recognize that they are temporary.
    3. Let there be no self-pity.
    4. Settle your problems as quickly as you can, if not with action, then by glimpsing and accepting a new point of view.
    5. Waste no time on “What might have been” and “If only…”
    6. Face sorrow and know that time will bring relief.
    7. Be occupied. Do not lie in bed brooding. Be occupied calmly , not feverishly trying to forget yourself.
    8. Remember that the strength in a muscle may depend on the confidence with which it is used.
    9. Accept your obsessions and be prepared to live with them
    temporarily. Do not fight them by trying to push them away. Let time do
    10. Remember your recovery does not necessarily depend “entirely on
    you” as so many people are so ready to tell you. You may need help.
    Accept it willingly, without shame.
    11. Do not measure your progress day by day. Don’t count the months,
    years you have been ill and despair at the thought of them. Once you
    are on the right road to recovery, recovery is inevitable, however
    protracted your illness may have been.
    12. Remember withdrawal is your jailer. Recovery lies on the other side of panic. Recovery lies in places you fear.
    13. Do not be discouraged if you cannot make decisions while you are ill. When you are well, decisions will be more easily made.
    14. Never accept total defeat. It is never too late to give yourself another chance.
    15. Practice don’t test.
    16. Face. Accept. Float. Let time pass.
    If you do this, you WILL recover.

    I want to say what facing is where you know your about to have anxiety or a pain episode right. So you don't fear it, or judge it or criticize it. Wait for it to come if it must, most everyone has been taught to hate anxiety and Pain. Well the more you hate it the more it will become and the bigger it will get so you have to learn how to Float. I'd highly recommend getting her book ok.

    This is a list of Dr. Abraham Lowes most famous Tools.

    Tools List
    The tools on this list are quoted or adapted from Mental Health Through Will Training (MH), Selections from Dr. Low’s Works (SEL) and Manage Your Fears, Manage Your Anger (MYF) and will help you take part in a Recovery International meeting. Many other tools can be found in these books.
    Some Basic RI Tools
    Treat mental health as a business and not as a game………………..…...……………MH ch.25
    Humor is our best friend, temper is our worst enemy……………………………….…..MH p.108
    If you can't change a situation you can change your attitude towards it...MYF p.108, Sel. p.31‐32
    Be self‐led, not symptom‐led. …..………………………………………......MYF p.114‐118, 280‐283
    Nervous symptoms and sensations are distressing but not dangerous…….….….. SEL p.53, MH p.115, 119
    Temper is, among other things, an intellectual blindness to the other side of the story…………MH p.159
    Comfort is a want, not a need. ………………………………..……………......….....MH chs.13, 22
    There is no right or wrong in the trivialities of every day life………...SEL p.39, MH p.157, 195‐196
    Calm begets calm, temper begets temper………………………….…...…….MYF p.245, SEL p.31
    Don't take our own dear selves too seriously………………………………....………….MH p.109
    Feelings should be expressed and temper suppressed…………………....……...…....MH p.178
    Helplessness is not hopelessness………………………..……………….……MH ch.7, MYF p.184
    Some people have a passion for self‐distrust…….…………...…..…….MH ch.29 & MYF Lecture 2
    Temper maintains and intensifies symptoms………………………..…….……….……MH p. 219
    Do things in part acts……………………………………………….…….……….……MH p.246‐249
    Endorse yourself for the effort, not only for the performance……...…….MYF p.13, SEL p.46, 132
    Have the courage to make a mistake………………..……….MH p.203, ch.30, MYF p.60, SEL p.108
    Feelings are not facts……………………………...……………..………….MH ch.9, MYF Lecture 14
    Do the things you fear and hate to do……………...………..…………...MH p. 329‐330, MYF p.197
    Fear is a belief –– beliefs can be changed………………………………………….MYF p.266‐269
    Every act of self‐control leads to a sense of self‐respect....…………….…….………..MH p.166
    Decide, plan and act. ………………………….……………………………………………...MH p.42
    Any decision will steady you……………………………………...……………….………...MYF p.5
    Anticipation is often worse than realization….…………………..…..………….MH p.114‐115, 146
    Replace an insecure thought with a secure thought……………..……….….……..MYF Lecture 1
    Bear the discomfort in order to gain comfort…………………….………….…………….MH p.149
    Hurt feelings are just beliefs not shared………………………………….………………..SEL p.21
    Self‐appointed expectations lead to self‐induced frustrations…………….…………….SEL p.35
    People do things that annoy us, not necessarily to annoy us………..…...…………….MH ch.48
    Knowledge teaches you what to do, practice tells you how to do it……...……………SEL p.118
    Muscles can be commanded to do what one fears to do………………………..……..SEL p.123
    Tempers are frequently uncontrolled, but not uncontrollable.…………………………..MH p.392

    Pay attention to how Ace 1 describes how we can get better in this list of tools that he put together... He is a Cancer Dr. and a great friend that took time out to put this list together from his own private studies. Hope this helps....

    The list below belong to a member on tmshelp.com forum with the screen name ACE1. He is a former tms patient of doctor Sarno, he is also a cancer doctor. He came up with this list after he was able to cure himself. It is the most read post in that forum. I really think if you truly follow every key below, you will heal. I think they are all great advises. I send it to all people who ask me question on mind body issue they have.
    I hope you all find it helpful and I hope ACE doesn't mind I copy and paste it here. Thanks ACE.

    1. Try to be aware of all internal reactions through your day

    2. Try to just act as normal but at ease (not fear) as much possible with the least concern to your symptoms that you can in a forget about your body type of manner. Try not to modify your behavior or do anything differently physically because of the symptoms as best as you can except being easy on yourself when you need to be.

    3. Worrying about or preoccupation with the symptoms (challenging, constantly evaluating them, reacting to them, or trying to make them better) makes you lose your ability to see that you're emotionally uncomfortable. Just use them as a sign that something’s not right emotionally. Interpreting the symptoms as anything other than a sign will impede your progress. Ask yourself; am I emotionally uncomfortable right now? Am I preparing too much for something, putting so much weight to it? Am I too focused or driven on something? What agenda do I have right now? Is there anything I'm just trying to get over with? Pause and look at the overall general picture to see how uncomfortable you may be and what it may be about. Also ask do I always do the same thing when the symptoms are there or especially bad? If the symptoms are especially bad ask, is there something different today from the other days (more work to do, deadline, event). Try to be as specific as possible. Once you find out why, the recognition helps in itself and you can use directed mind power techniques (see #10 below). Sometimes you will see these patterns in retrospect and you will know next time you encounter them (i.e. You get pain prior to dinner but after you eat it gets much better. You think it must have been the importance you placed on eating and possibly the rush and intensity in accomplishing this. You think of this the next time you encounter the situation and use directed affirmations. And, yes, it can be something this trivial).

    4. Recognize that certain situations make your symptoms worse. This is because you have said a lot of negative things, thought a lot of negative thoughts, or done something with extreme intensity about these situations in the past. This may be related to being sensitized to the situation from your childhood or some other reason (like in the example stated in #3, your mother may have put too much importance for you to eat as a child). You have to decondition yourself to these situations. It is also important to recognize these situations and the reason for your symptoms every time you’re experiencing them and bring this recognition thought to the forefront of your thinking.

    5. When you are in these sensitized (conditioned) situations, don't run away from them, stay in them, sit in them and this time, take an approach that you are comfortable in the situation. Behave opposite to what you did before. If you have symptoms, don't let them bother you or sensitize you more to the situation as best as you can. Use your affirmations here. Sometimes just stopping for a moment in these situations and just taking breaths and trying to reach a deeper level of relaxation is helpful. This works by breaking the intense, focused train of thought that is present in these situations.

    6. Recognizing why you may be sensitized is helpful, but not essential to recovery. It uncovers ways you may mentally strain as a overall picture and allows you to apply directed mind power techniques. (Described more below #10) (I.e. you were picked on as a child, now any criticism from a spouse sparks very intense reactions, you see this and now repeat I forgive and let go easily)

    7. It is also important to note that situations that you have not deconditioned yourself to will produce symptoms in you that make you feel that you have made no progress even if you’re close to being cured. Don't let this disway you as you only need to decondition yourself to these situations as well. (Your symptom free most of the time but get symptoms at the beach, a place you haven't been to in a long time but it was a place you were you were sensitized to in the past. You could be sensitized to this situation just be because you had severe symptoms there before)

    8. The problem is really a mental strain (mentally excited, hyped up, held up, on edge, or anticipatory feeling) related to a perceived important/stressful situation that is then pushed into a physical strain/bracing/constriction in usually one part of your body which leads to symptoms. It can be to something perceived as bad OR good. This strain becomes somewhat a type of automatic HABIT and mode that you go into as a conditioned reaction. IT BECOMES A HABITUAL STRAIN that you don't see any more. The primary problem is the mental strain but the physical strain plays a role too. Therefore your goal is to be at peace with everything and do things with ease. If you begin to get the start of a symptom, don't strain into it more or try to force the affected area to function. Its ok to be still and accept the symptoms and work on the mental strain and conditioning. You will think that the way you react/feel is normal (and that you are not in a hyped up mode) because it is so habitual, but if you have symptoms, it is there. Also, it is your goal to prevent the strain or reaction/mode in the first place, because after you strain the resultant pain/symptoms do linger for a bit before they dissipate even if you try to relax.

    9. One type of strain is that we expect our body/self to accomplish the impossible. We try to be faster than we can possibly be, angrier than we can stand, more afraid than what's good for us, nicer and better than what is humanly possible. That strain, in a way, is a pushing feeling beyond ones limit or capability. A lot of this in the beginning is consciously chosen due to one’s intense personality, but later becomes an unconscious habit. As you can see, this is a mental strain as there is no physical aspect to it. This leads to the hyped up feeling (a type of mental strain/reaction) and you start to use your body in a way as if it can accomplish this goal (which it really can't), which leads you to physically strain. This mental strain doesn’t ever help accomplish your unattainable goals (the impossible) all it does is breaks your body down and turns into a bad habit. It is the treatment of the original mental strain that should be your primary goal. Try to pay attention to this key especially when in a situation where you’re usually under time constraints like at work.

    10. Work on the mental strain by deconditioning and changing strained habits through the use of mind power, mostly affirmations and good self-talk and by behaving in a peaceful, relaxed manner. My main affirmations were "I take my time, forgive and let go easily" and "I'm calm relaxed, patient and confident". I also really like "I am always easy on myself" and "I am comfortable with doing nothing." It is always better to think of the meaning of the words and imagine what it would feel like to be that way as you say them, but saying them mindlessly still helps. In some situations just repeating one word over and over such as "relaxed" is more effective than the phrases, sometimes the phrases are more effective. You will just have to experiment. Do mind power on an as needed basis (EVERY TIME when having symptoms or psychologically bothered) and around sleep (5 min for each affirmation or visualization before and after sleep, the longer affirmation versus the one word is usually better here because it is more specific to your future goal). You may be doing this all day at first. You also have to be consistent with this on an everyday basis. CONSISTENT MINDPOWER TO REDUCE MY STRAIN WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF MY RECOVERY. Other mind power techniques I also used but not as consistently were visualizations. One visualization I used was imaging myself and what it would feel like to breathe in a white mist, with the mist representing calmness. When I exhaled the mist i imagined it colorless as if the calmness had been absorbed into my body. Another one is imagining yourself in a very peaceful place like a meadow with flowers - I did this when I was in situations where it was more difficult to relax. Visualization can be used in a different way also, you can use it to visualize yourself doing the thing that you are anticipating that is causing you to strain before you do it. You can even visualize yourself in the situation that causes you to strain while you’re ACTUALLY IN that situation, while seeing the objects around you in your mind. It is a form of recognition and from the perspective of the observer; it shows your mind that the situation is not a big deal. It also gives the event/task spatial time and value as opposed to before were you didn’t want to give the task/event any time and you wished it didn't have to be done. Obviously, as you do it, imagine yourself doing it in a easy fashion. One example is let's say you wake up and are feeling strained to rush to finish showering before going to work. Imagine yourself walking into the shower slowly and easily and imagine yourself easily doing and finishing the showering. Alternatively, you can just imagine yourself in the shower as you are actually showering while imagining the water, the shower head and everything around you (it doesn't have to be imagined in real time, it can be in clips but don't do it rushed). One more technique is palming, where you close your eyes and cup your eyes with both hands to exclude light. You could do this while saying your affirmation in the background (this really does work). An important note about affirmations/visualizations is I don't think they are enough by themselves. They are tools to help you break conditioned habits of strain, so use them to help you get to the state of relaxation that you need to get to in the various situations. So what this means is once you see yourself wanting to get too excited about something, you consciously stop from going down that line of behavior in addition to using the additional mind power tools.

    11. Eliminate all negative talk and stop yourself from going down a negative line of thinking. This is "negative" mind power.

    12. Be active if possible independent of the symptoms (not for overcoming your illness, but to be comfortable with your body) and do things you were afraid to do gradually, not to challenge, but just to do them. (I.e. if I play soccer and there is back pain, I will not think of using my back more or strain with it more to get it "used" to activity. I would just play soccer, and if in pain, just accept it and use affirmations if necessary). As you get into the game, you'll probably forget about it. This activity can be slowly and gradually increased as not to increase the strain. You want to coerce you body back to normality. There should be no activity or force directed in response to the symptoms. If symptoms are severe at a certain point, it is ok to limit activities temporally until you are in a better mental state to proceed with the rigorous activity.

    13. Recognize you are bringing your tension level set point down over time from a very high level and breaking habits which will take time. You are doing this treatment not for the moment but for the future. Until you get far along enough, you will not be able to stop the symptoms at will and that’s ok. Most people with severe or consistent symptoms will a lot of times need some years for full resolution.

    14. One of the biggest sources of tension and strain is being in a rush or wanting to be somewhere other than where you are right now. It’s not being fast per se, but the strain that can be associated with wanting to be fast. Another way to look at this is that one is always projecting themselves into the future or pushing their body even past its limit as if one can make it go faster, which one can't. One's drive can be so intense, that anything that gets in one's way will cause a conflict and thus symptoms. I also believe that the symptoms make the person want to rush more because when someone is in pain or uncomfortable, they just want to get tasks of daily living just "over with". I think this somehow intensifies the strain and illness and makes symptoms present almost all day, with every task present in life. Also a lot of times there is a feeling to escape the symptoms themselves and that perpetuates them by keeping the person out of the present moment even more so. When someone has symptoms and they can't figure out what’s bothering them, it is usually the need to be in a rush, to escape, or to just want to get a task just out of the way. Another one is the feeling that one should be doing something more productive than what they are doing right now. See if you can recognize these feelings when they happen and try to resolve them by not going with them, acting the opposite, and using the affirmations. One very good way to recognize this is by asking - AM I OK BEING IN THIS SITUATION I AM IN RIGHT NOW? The recognition in its self helps relax these rush feelings and helps you direct your mind power techniques. Recognition is VERY helpful.

    15. The URGE to just be finished with something or to want to get somewhere quickly so bad is I think equivalent to the pain/symptom, but it has just become dissociated from its original meaning, which why it is just pain/symptom. (This is along the same lines of what is said in #14). Another way to think about this overall concept is that you have made (conditioned) yourself to be uncomfortable in almost every situation and the urge is to escape. Try not to reinforce this urge by going with it. Act as if you have nowhere to go. Take your time and go slower. You have to just sit in these uncomfortable situations and make yourself comfortable again to get better. It is also helpful to recognize and put your attention on this urge/strain if you can find it and try to bring back its meaning to it, then use an affirmation in the background of this. Try to do your chores of daily living while resisting this urge and make this your new habit of how you do things.

    16. Along the lines of what is stated in #14 and #15, when in a rush to get something over with, we tend to hold our breath until whatever is completed so we feel we can breathe again. The lack of breath tends to accentuate the physical strain we talked about earlier. Therefore, when having symptoms, or when you get into a hyped up mode, it may be helpful to encourage continuous breathing without pausing. Also don't valsalva or bear down when put in a sensitized situation.

    17. Observe the strain if possible when you sit in it and do your mind power. See generally how hyped-up or in a overall excited state you are in. Also see the part of your inner body that is trying to push beyond its limit or what type of impatient or irritated urge you may have. You may have to stop and pause for a second from whatever it is you are doing to look and see in the big picture how hyped up (strained) you are. Now imagine how it would feel like if you were in ths situation without this strain being present. Somehow first seeing the strain allows you to be able to relax it and imagine what it would be like without it. Affirmations can be helpful here as well. One can also in general observe their symptoms/symptomatic body parts as long as they don't pull away from them or strain in to them more.

    18. Anything that is annoying to you is a source of symptoms, so try not to let whatever it is become annoying to you, just accept it. Be aware that after having symptoms for some time even tasks of daily living become annoying. Anger or irritation that you can't stand obviously also applies. Don't add more fuel to the fire when this happens, observe it and let it go, while trying not to let your body strain inside in reaction to it. Affirmations in the background of this can be helpful. Try also not to ever think of yourself as wronged or a victim, this only leads down the path of negative thinking, conflict and pain. You can act, but don’t react and forgive.

    19. One additional technique that could be used is the following. Picture someone, something that annoys or bothers you, or something that traumatized you in the past that still affects you in your mind and use an affirmation like "I forgive and let go easily", over and over while seeing their face or picturing the situation. This works very well after just having had an argument with a spouse, family member or friend. Another technique that could be used would be to self-record a directed affirmation and have the player repeat it all night while sleeping.

    20. Remember, someone who can change their life to take out major stressors (quit a job, divorce etc) will get better faster than ones who cannot and has to accept their life the way it is and recondition themselves. Unless the circumstance is extreme or very easy to fix, it is to your benefit to recondition yourself than to change your life.

    21. When an event that bothers you happens, if you don't try to resolve it (bring the tension level/hyped up mode down first before carrying on), this will lead to symptoms. I think this is what is meant by repression. The tension level is allowed to go wild, and is ignored without attempts to resolve it in one's own mind, without calming down about it, or without reconditioning one's self. Another way of looking at this is there is the thought, I will only relax after so and so is completed, so you are on edge until you are done doing what you have to do. This is wrong thinking and you have to learn to be relaxed while doing whatever it is you are doing. You will want to go with the old habits, but you have to consciously make the choice not to do this.

    22. When you heal, the pain more so fades away, so there is no battle that is then eventually won. It's ok to be easy on yourself and on the symptomatic body part when the tension level is very high. Don’t feel you have something to prove or that you have let it beat you. Bring the tension level down first then you will see that your symptoms have subsided enough for you to function. The healing process is done very gradually, with a very gradual improvement in symptoms and ability to do things you were unable to do before. You cannot do anything physical to heal (which includes fighting).

    23. Everything to your best should be done with peace, calmness, forgiveness and ease (WITHOUT STRAIN or WITH FUNCTIONAL RELAXATION. You need mental control to achieve this.). Some people talk, behave and function in a strained way and this is to be recognized and modified for cure to occur. Observing a video of yourself may help to clue you in on this. Also be good to yourself.

    24. Try to think of the big picture when applying these techniques and when trying to achieve relaxation. Most people with symptoms are too detail oriented and are intense in that regard. They also try to apply this detail orientation and intensity to their symptoms and to trying to get rid of them. When one looks to see if they are emotionally uncomfortable or strained, it is better to look at it from a general/big picture sense than focusing and trying to find some tiny little detail. Then it is helpful to try to achieve ease in the big picture as well. Part of your cure is to stop thinking in this intense manner and to now be more laid back and think of the big picture. One may strain in normal little daily routines like eating, talking or doing small tasks and it is important to see this and change it, but the recognition and fix of the strain in these little things is thought of in the big picture.

    25. It is also helpful for some to make a list of possible things that bother them or cause them unease. Reflect on these bothersome things and try to fix them if you can and if it's easy enough, otherwise you have to decondition yourself to make them not a big deal anymore as mentioned above and this usually takes time.

    26. Sometimes one may think about a certain task, position, situation or movement and you may immediately get the feeling that you will get symptoms with this event. This is because you are thinking about doing this event in intense, get it over with manner, whether your aware or not. Try to rethink about this event being done in a very gentle, eased manner and that you will give it all the time and ease it needs and you will not get the same type of reaction to it. Never make anything that your about to be involved in to be such a difficult thing and do not make yourself feel so much resistance in doing it.

    27. If you're unsure if something you are doing is helping your recovery or not is to ask the following question - Is this helping me to calm my overly sensitized nervous system and build resistance to reacting to the events in my day?

    28. This has to be undertaken as a major project for it to work, with consistent all day practice. Also the time needed for recovery must be given no matter how long it takes. This type of recovery will simply NOT work if is undertaken in a superficial manner. You really have to practice all day to get good at this.

    29. Recommended books are Healing Back Pain by Dr. John Sarno; The Power of Now/A New Earth by Echardt Tolle (I like the audio versions); and Mind Power into the 21st Century by John Kehoe (In this book, techniques should be used to achieve mental relaxation). Possibly read them in that order.

    And dont forget to listen to Claire Weekes audios.

    These audio recordings of Claire Weekes have gotten me through a lot

    Part 1


    Part 2


    Part 3


    Part 4


    Now after this we will talk about those headaches more if you wish, let me know how you do, make sure to print these tools out and use them daily.
  6. Carmela

    Carmela New Member

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  7. Carmela

    Carmela New Member

    Thank you,
    Thank you Leslie! I need lots of support. My mind wanders to the extreme. I am a veteran OVERTHINKER! I can't seem to to go to 1 or 2 I go immediately to 10!!!! hahahah When it comes to TMS, I am convinced I have it when I am not feeling awful. When I feel awful, my mind starts telling me it's something serious and I am never going to overcome this. I have had migraines for my entire life. Sometimes the rescue meds work, sometimes they don't. I don't know why that is either.

    I appreciate your reaching out to me and hope you are pain free in every aspect of your life!!!

  8. Carmela

    Carmela New Member

    Thanks for responding. I didn't know why some people had loads of replies but mine not so much. I was wondering if I used the wrong procedure for posting. If you or anyone can help me find a way to deal with the pain, I would appreciate it.

    In my less painful moments I try to use the techniques, telling myself that I am on to the pain, it is suppressed emotions, but when I am in pain it is hard to talk to myself. The pain is too raw. I lost my brother 3 months ago. He was my only sibling. He was younger than me. Our mother died 2 years ago. My brother and I used to visit it her every day and it brought us closer than ever. When he was married to his 2 wives , we were not very close. I know I have repressed anger from that since I could not waste time with him rehashing old wounds. Now in retrospect, I am glad I never broached the subject of feeling rejected when he was married.

    The idea of repressed emotions has me somewhat confused because I am a fairly introspected person who usually is aware of my emotions and the cause of them.

    This has stumped me.

    Thanks for responding. Hope we can keep in touch.
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  9. Walt Oleksy

    Walt Oleksy Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi, Carmella. I think the losses of loved ones is your main repressed emotion. You may have to have an old-fashioned crying jag,
    to try to get the feelings of abandonment out of your mind and heart. That's not easy, of course, but it may help lead you to
    substituting the losses with remembering the happy times you all spent together. I know we're supposed to live in the present moment,
    and I try to do that, but it sure is comforting to remember good times I've had with those I've loved who have gone to their paradise,
    and even those still here but who moved away.

    You may not have heard from others about your posting because the subject is something they still are working on for themselves.
    Often, the subjects are too personal for some people to reply to.

    God bless you and keep us posted on how things are going. You've lost some who were very close to you, but remember you are
    part of the TMSwiki family and we support and love each other.
  10. yb44

    yb44 Beloved Grand Eagle

    I am so sorry for your close family losses. Talk about feeling raw. This was all so recent and will take time to process. Take all the time that you need. The feelings of rejection you felt during your brother's marriages were also recent events in a way too. You say that you suffered from migraine since you were 12. What events surrounded your first migraine? Although you may be aware of your emotions this is only on an intellectual level. You may not recognise that emotions reside in your body. Ellen wrote a great post in this thread: http://tmswiki.org/forum/threads/section-3-5-2-address-repression-anger.5103/

    I like Ace's keys to healing that Herbie posted above, especially the points he makes regarding strain. Strain is the number one cause of my head pains or any pains for that matter. Repressed emotions may predispose me to migraine symptoms but strain really seals the deal.
  11. Carmela

    Carmela New Member

    Thanks, Walt! I know that the losses I have suffered these last two years have contributed to the Migraines and to whatever other issues ( IBS/Anxiety) are going on in my life.

    HoweverI have been experienceing migraines for my entire life. I think the idea that they are psychological makes so much sense to me and yet I think in my darker moments I doubt it.

    I would like to be like those people in Dr. Sarno's book, who find relief just by virtue of the knowledge that they are psychological!!!! Unfortunately that has not happened for me.

    I know I will need more time and certainly more support.

    thanks for writing to me!
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  12. Fabi

    Fabi Well known member

    Hi, and it has not happened to me either, though I have a strong feeling it is all within me. I have been having migranes, or sympthoms assiciated with them for several months. I have tried all meds, none worked and made my liver ill. I am on no medication, I have tried a new therapist, but got very bad results, as she stopped her consultation and never explained why, now I am looking for a new one. I would like someone to help me with EFT techniques.
    God bless you all.
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  13. SunnyinFL

    SunnyinFL Well known member

    Hi Carmela,
    You've got my help, my support, and my encouragement! I am so proud of you for asking for what you want, and I also hope you will consider that you yourself have the wisdom to understand and unravel your symptoms. I don't have symptoms in the form of migraines or IBS, but I can relate to anxiety and worrying. As to the anxiety - I used to view anxiety as an emotion; but, now I treat my anxiety the same as physical pains and look for the emotions I need to feel. This is helping me a lot. As for worrying - I've done a lot of that and now view worrying as a "habit" I can break. When I realized most of my worries were about the future - which may or may not happen - it got me laughing at the absurdity of some of my own worries. None of us have a crystal ball so how do we even know what to worry about if we don't know what the future will bring ? When I examine my worries this way, they seem to go away. Please let me know if any of these approaches work for you. Sounds to me like you are on the right path and I wish you all the best!
  14. Fabi

    Fabi Well known member

    What exactly do you mean by that?
    I asked the question before finishing listening to the last podcast.Now I know "Accept, practice and don´t test".
    Maybe it can be better understood with a simple comma, "Practice, don´t test."
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2015
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  15. maysie

    maysie Newcomer

    thanks so much for such a detailed response - this has helped me to get past my defenses, such as - I've changed enough, why doesn't the pain stop? You are suggesting that the body is not willing for me to compromise to that degree - it's necessary that I do this properly.
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