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Chronic pain is rage

Filipe2025

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Hi, as you all know I recover from chronic pain, 16 years ago, and have a big relapse this year. This relapse made me understand TMS, in a way, that we can attribute all chronic pain to inner rage. Maybe this simplifys everything. Lete explain. 16 years ago, my son was born, I immediately understood that my wife, wasn't with me anymore. That's when my chronic pain started. Now I understand that it was rage, that started it all. Moreover, since all my exams were fine, but still I had this burning sensation all over my body, nobody believed me, which intensify my pain. I was furious, and in rage, because my wife didn't believe I was feeling pain. This time, this relapse, was due to inner rage, because of my failure to get a woman, so I wouldn't be alone. And also, due to my wife, 6 years, after leaving me, hadn't return. In fact, she told me that she would never come back, that she didn't love me anymore. My inner rage increased. Not sadness, but rage. Rage of not having company, rage of being abandoned, of things find work out with other women, if the way the world is today, etc.

So, I think that all TMS is due to inner rage, if the self. One day, I remember, arriving home, and I was so enraged of being in pain. I remember hitting the whole with my fist. The pain almost immediately went away.

Thanks
 
You're right. Difficult or negative emotions, when experienced over a prolonged period of time, can be what give rise to these symptoms. I suppose the brain comes to perceive a threat.
In the last part of your post, you mention something that really caught my attention, because I’ve experienced it too. Sometimes I felt so much anger about what was happening in my arms that I would end up hitting them with an open hand. And strangely, that would make the pain stop abruptly for a few minutes.
Honestly, I’m not sure how to understand this, but I also knew it wasn’t a good way to cope with it.
 
creo que en tu caso, toda esa ira acumulada tuvo mucho que ver. Más que nada, pensé en que tu esposa, para empezar, no creyó en tu dolor y, progresivamente, se distanció de ti e incluso te dijo cosas hirientes. Sin embargo, creo que depende de ti decidir si eso todavía te afecta. Quizás no sea lo que quieres oír, pero realmente no necesitas tener a alguien a tu lado todo el tiempo para ser feliz. Tal vez por ahora solo necesitas conocer gente nueva y no centrarte tanto en eso. Las cosas suelen suceder de forma natural en ese ámbito, así que no puedes forzar nada. No te cierres a la posibilidad de conocer a alguien, pero tampoco te obsesiones. Disfruta de la vida sin dolor que tienes ahora. Eventualmente, habrá alguien que te ame tal como eres. Mucha suerte.
 
creo que en tu caso, toda esa ira acumulada tuvo mucho que ver. Más que nada, pensé en que tu esposa, para empezar, no creyó en tu dolor y, progresivamente, se distanció de ti e incluso te dijo cosas hirientes. Sin embargo, creo que depende de ti decidir si eso todavía te afecta. Quizás no sea lo que quieres oír, pero realmente no necesitas tener a alguien a tu lado todo el tiempo para ser feliz. Tal vez por ahora solo necesitas conocer gente nueva y no centrarte tanto en eso. Las cosas suelen suceder de forma natural en ese ámbito, así que no puedes forzar nada. No te cierres a la posibilidad de conocer a alguien, pero tampoco te obsesiones. Disfruta de la vida sin dolor que tienes ahora. Eventualmente, habrá alguien que te ame tal como eres. Mucha suerte.
Thanks. I feel a constant irritability. Is it consistent with rage?
 
Dr. Hanscom has done the most work around anger, rage, frustration, resentment and irritability because it is something he must work on himself. Here is a great talk on anger with Les Aria. They discuss how all these things are an activation of the nervous system and steps to take.
 
I irritate quite easy. Usually, when I go out, my home I check and double check if the gas is turned off. By the third time I do that, I start feeling this rage, and irritability. I have to stop checking, not because I'm sure that is turned off (I'm afraid my mind is striking me) but because of the irritation, the rage of doing it over, and over again. Can someone explain? I mean why OCD behaviour creates inner rage/irritability. The threshold used to be much higher. I don't remember being irritated by it

Dr hanscom says, if you calm down your body, you calm down your mind/OCD, right?. I always thought it was the other way around. But it is true. The first time I had chronic pain, I was doing big walks, and it helped. I had that necessity, and also catching sun, getting to the beach. I'm not sure if it stops negative thinking, though.
 
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Dr. Hanscom and Dr. Aria both explain that the "irritation" and on-going anger (when it is a state you find yourself stuck in, not just an emotion that passes fairly quickly when you feel it) but is synonymous with anxiety.
Yes, they are saying that you need to allow the irritability and not fear it, not fret over it. This piles on layers of anxiety, OCD - like thoughts, fears, worries etc. and creates that feeling of being a victim to these things. When you allow the physical sensations of irritability (not just thoughts about who you are angry with, why etc) and can be with that discomfort of feeling like you'll jump out of your skin if you are alone, or if you are still and just be with them, even for a few minutes, you will learn that you are perfectly OK in these times and feelings (I think sometimes you confuse feelings with thoughts. Feelings are sensations just like hot or cold is) and that they pass. We get out of the habit of allowing these things in our bodies when we get stuck in our heads. You explain it very well when you say that going for walks, catching the sun, enjoying the beach etc. brings on the sensations of calm for you - these are physical things that effect you mentally, emotionally and spiritually. Do not worry if they "stop" negative thinking, stop worrying about the negative thoughts.
Negative or any thoughts (including OCD like thoughts) are all are simply thoughts. As humans we are taught to subscribe to the meaning of thoughts, but for the most part, they are meaningless. It is our own minds that subscribe meaning to the thoughts and then we get caught up in them like a rat running on a wheel in a cage. If you let that rat run in a field, he will still run - but he runs freely without the cage. It's like thoughts. Let them run free but don't cage them so often.
In the video above Les Aria (who is one of my favorite TMS doctors) mentions is Youtube channel called Myndfulness. He has just a few exercises there that are fast, and begin to teach you to still your body and your mind, and you might enjoy them and use them to begin training your mind not to fear stillness or thoughts. He tells you how to do this clearly.
 
Dr. Hanscom and Dr. Aria both explain that the "irritation" and on-going anger (when it is a state you find yourself stuck in, not just an emotion that passes fairly quickly when you feel it) but is synonymous with anxiety.
Yes, they are saying that you need to allow the irritability and not fear it, not fret over it. This piles on layers of anxiety, OCD - like thoughts, fears, worries etc. and creates that feeling of being a victim to these things. When you allow the physical sensations of irritability (not just thoughts about who you are angry with, why etc) and can be with that discomfort of feeling like you'll jump out of your skin if you are alone, or if you are still and just be with them, even for a few minutes, you will learn that you are perfectly OK in these times and feelings (I think sometimes you confuse feelings with thoughts. Feelings are sensations just like hot or cold is) and that they pass. We get out of the habit of allowing these things in our bodies when we get stuck in our heads. You explain it very well when you say that going for walks, catching the sun, enjoying the beach etc. brings on the sensations of calm for you - these are physical things that effect you mentally, emotionally and spiritually. Do not worry if they "stop" negative thinking, stop worrying about the negative thoughts.
Negative or any thoughts (including OCD like thoughts) are all are simply thoughts. As humans we are taught to subscribe to the meaning of thoughts, but for the most part, they are meaningless. It is our own minds that subscribe meaning to the thoughts and then we get caught up in them like a rat running on a wheel in a cage. If you let that rat run in a field, he will still run - but he runs freely without the cage. It's like thoughts. Let them run free but don't cage them so often.
In the video above Les Aria (who is one of my favorite TMS doctors) mentions is Youtube channel called Myndfulness. He has just a few exercises there that are fast, and begin to teach you to still your body and your mind, and you might enjoy them and use them to begin training your mind not to fear stillness or thoughts. He tells you how to do this clearly.

Thanks my friend, you are a wonderful human being.

I guess I have to hear that over, and over again, as this feeling of irritability scares me a lot. One thing that gives me hope, is that, sometimes I manage to relax, and this feeling goes away. So I'm sure distracting yourself is the solution, or allow your emotions to be felt. When this relapse started, I remember in the begging being agitated. I used to take naps, and suddenly I couldn't do it. I tried to do it, but I could calm myself and let go. At that time I was with a girl that made me very anxious, I never felt at ease with her, because she was very pretty, and I thought I had to be at my highest, to please het. But it was for 2 months only. She was also very anxious, and sometimes I irrationality think she passed me a virus of some sort, like a virus that messes up with your CNS.

I'm also a supporter of the German new medicine, which states that our body respond to any conflict biologicaly.

As I told before, the only thing that was detected in my exams was that the right lobe of my thyroid was 1cm larger in volume, which is consistent with the German new medicine, that says that the meaning of right thyroid lobe to swollen is to provide more "power" to the body, so it can be faster to get what it wants. In my case, faster to please that girlfriend. Anyway, thyroid issues are all related to chronic stress. And they can be cured by managing stress. It is the same type of cure. Calming down and managing repressed emotions leting them flow, be at ease with negative thoughts, and continue with your life.

I just wanna be sure that calming down your body, is the right way to go (I know it is at a conscious level), because it is taking too long to recover my piece if mind.

I still wake up with a nervousness that I cannot explain. Crying ease it. I'm just afraid...

Anyway, I did it in the past. I calm my self down the first time I got chronic pain, and got cured. I was always crying. Now I understand.

Is calming down your body a cumulative process? I mean, if I go to the mountains every day, will I eventually calm down. If you calm down your body, will you calm down your thoughts?
 
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Dr. Hanscom and Dr. Aria both explain that the "irritation" and on-going anger (when it is a state you find yourself stuck in, not just an emotion that passes fairly quickly when you feel it) but is synonymous with anxiety.
Yes, they are saying that you need to allow the irritability and not fear it, not fret over it. This piles on layers of anxiety, OCD - like thoughts, fears, worries etc. and creates that feeling of being a victim to these things. When you allow the physical sensations of irritability (not just thoughts about who you are angry with, why etc) and can be with that discomfort of feeling like you'll jump out of your skin if you are alone, or if you are still and just be with them, even for a few minutes, you will learn that you are perfectly OK in these times and feelings (I think sometimes you confuse feelings with thoughts. Feelings are sensations just like hot or cold is) and that they pass. We get out of the habit of allowing these things in our bodies when we get stuck in our heads. You explain it very well when you say that going for walks, catching the sun, enjoying the beach etc. brings on the sensations of calm for you - these are physical things that effect you mentally, emotionally and spiritually. Do not worry if they "stop" negative thinking, stop worrying about the negative thoughts.
Negative or any thoughts (including OCD like thoughts) are all are simply thoughts. As humans we are taught to subscribe to the meaning of thoughts, but for the most part, they are meaningless. It is our own minds that subscribe meaning to the thoughts and then we get caught up in them like a rat running on a wheel in a cage. If you let that rat run in a field, he will still run - but he runs freely without the cage. It's like thoughts. Let them run free but don't cage them so often.
In the video above Les Aria (who is one of my favorite TMS doctors) mentions is Youtube channel called Myndfulness. He has just a few exercises there that are fast, and begin to teach you to still your body and your mind, and you might enjoy them and use them to begin training your mind not to fear stillness or thoughts. He tells you how to do this clearly.

I loved your advices. I was trying to do stuff to calm my self down. To stop this irritability, than I start feeling this fear. The more I talk to people about my nervousness the more scared I am. My major problem is fear. Fear played a parte since was born. My father was a very fearful person, and also my grandmother. I still feel.afraid when the weather is cloudy.

How can we address fear? Should we feel it the same way, as the other emotions? Is it the sane mechanism. I remember doing affirmations to stop being afraid, the more I did, the fearful I was becoming.

I think fear is really the mind killer. I went full circle. What cause me this relapse, was the fear of the relationship I was having with that girl, fear of what I was doing with her, and of not being sufficient to please her. And then I started wearing the psycossomatic symptoms I start having, like the choking sensation, and then, the fear related to my chronic pain coming back, and not overcoming it due to be alone.

How can I overcome fear, alone. My mother isn't here anymore, and also my wife, which was a kind of a mother. Should I turn to God?

What I mean is that don't know if I should try to address my childhood traumas/fear (it makes me worse every time I do it) or to accept them and face life, it's challenges, and just let all the negative emotions that arise go away. In others words, accept who I am, a very sensitive person, contrary to what Joseph Dispenza idea of losing the habit of being yourself, which is giving me more stress and fear. Although we have to learn to be resilient. I think The thought of doing therapy to address my inner fears is doing me more harm than good, and scaring me.

O feel a lot of rage because I don't understand why I end like this, alone, without a family, it seems nobody cares about me. Always fighting to have things to do, to have company, etc. I also feel rage if my old hobbies because they envolve being alone.

The problem is that I'm having these constant waves of rage. I can deal with them, in a TMS way, it eases up, for brief moments. But they are too many.

It's good to know at least the reason for all this rage, my wife abandon me after my son was born, even before she went out if home. I'm also in rage because my inner child still have no substitute for her. I understand everything, but I insist on turning against the external world so I feel this inner rage. Because the external world seems not to care about my needs.
 
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