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Chronic pain is rage

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Filipe2025, May 6, 2026 at 3:05 PM.

  1. Filipe2025

    Filipe2025 Peer Supporter

    Hi, as you all know I recover from chronic pain, 16 years ago, and have a big relapse this year. This relapse made me understand TMS, in a way, that we can attribute all chronic pain to inner rage. Maybe this simplifys everything. Lete explain. 16 years ago, my son was born, I immediately understood that my wife, wasn't with me anymore. That's when my chronic pain started. Now I understand that it was rage, that started it all. Moreover, since all my exams were fine, but still I had this burning sensation all over my body, nobody believed me, which intensify my pain. I was furious, and in rage, because my wife didn't believe I was feeling pain. This time, this relapse, was due to inner rage, because of my failure to get a woman, so I wouldn't be alone. And also, due to my wife, 6 years, after leaving me, hadn't return. In fact, she told me that she would never come back, that she didn't love me anymore. My inner rage increased. Not sadness, but rage. Rage of not having company, rage of being abandoned, of things find work out with other women, if the way the world is today, etc.

    So, I think that all TMS is due to inner rage, if the self. One day, I remember, arriving home, and I was so enraged of being in pain. I remember hitting the whole with my fist. The pain almost immediately went away.

    Thanks
     
  2. Alouqua47

    Alouqua47 Peer Supporter

    You're right. Difficult or negative emotions, when experienced over a prolonged period of time, can be what give rise to these symptoms. I suppose the brain comes to perceive a threat.
    In the last part of your post, you mention something that really caught my attention, because I’ve experienced it too. Sometimes I felt so much anger about what was happening in my arms that I would end up hitting them with an open hand. And strangely, that would make the pain stop abruptly for a few minutes.
    Honestly, I’m not sure how to understand this, but I also knew it wasn’t a good way to cope with it.
     
  3. Alouqua47

    Alouqua47 Peer Supporter

    creo que en tu caso, toda esa ira acumulada tuvo mucho que ver. Más que nada, pensé en que tu esposa, para empezar, no creyó en tu dolor y, progresivamente, se distanció de ti e incluso te dijo cosas hirientes. Sin embargo, creo que depende de ti decidir si eso todavía te afecta. Quizás no sea lo que quieres oír, pero realmente no necesitas tener a alguien a tu lado todo el tiempo para ser feliz. Tal vez por ahora solo necesitas conocer gente nueva y no centrarte tanto en eso. Las cosas suelen suceder de forma natural en ese ámbito, así que no puedes forzar nada. No te cierres a la posibilidad de conocer a alguien, pero tampoco te obsesiones. Disfruta de la vida sin dolor que tienes ahora. Eventualmente, habrá alguien que te ame tal como eres. Mucha suerte.
     
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  4. Filipe2025

    Filipe2025 Peer Supporter

    Thanks. I feel a constant irritability. Is it consistent with rage?
     
  5. panopticon

    panopticon New Member

    Can you explain more about how you handled the rage? What were you doing that made it go away?
     
  6. Cactusflower

    Cactusflower Beloved Grand Eagle

    Dr. Hanscom has done the most work around anger, rage, frustration, resentment and irritability because it is something he must work on himself. Here is a great talk on anger with Les Aria. They discuss how all these things are an activation of the nervous system and steps to take.
     
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  7. Filipe2025

    Filipe2025 Peer Supporter

    I irritate quite easy. Usually, when I go out, my home I check and double check if the gas is turned off. By the third time I do that, I start feeling this rage, and irritability. I have to stop checking, not because I'm sure that is turned off (I'm afraid my mind is striking me) but because of the irritation, the rage of doing it over, and over again. Can someone explain? I mean why OCD behaviour creates inner rage/irritability. The threshold used to be much higher. I don't remember being irritated by it

    Dr hanscom says, if you calm down your body, you calm down your mind/OCD, right?. I always thought it was the other way around. But it is true. The first time I had chronic pain, I was doing big walks, and it helped. I had that necessity, and also catching sun, getting to the beach. I'm not sure if it stops negative thinking, though.
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2026 at 3:27 AM
  8. Cactusflower

    Cactusflower Beloved Grand Eagle

    Dr. Hanscom and Dr. Aria both explain that the "irritation" and on-going anger (when it is a state you find yourself stuck in, not just an emotion that passes fairly quickly when you feel it) but is synonymous with anxiety.
    Yes, they are saying that you need to allow the irritability and not fear it, not fret over it. This piles on layers of anxiety, OCD - like thoughts, fears, worries etc. and creates that feeling of being a victim to these things. When you allow the physical sensations of irritability (not just thoughts about who you are angry with, why etc) and can be with that discomfort of feeling like you'll jump out of your skin if you are alone, or if you are still and just be with them, even for a few minutes, you will learn that you are perfectly OK in these times and feelings (I think sometimes you confuse feelings with thoughts. Feelings are sensations just like hot or cold is) and that they pass. We get out of the habit of allowing these things in our bodies when we get stuck in our heads. You explain it very well when you say that going for walks, catching the sun, enjoying the beach etc. brings on the sensations of calm for you - these are physical things that effect you mentally, emotionally and spiritually. Do not worry if they "stop" negative thinking, stop worrying about the negative thoughts.
    Negative or any thoughts (including OCD like thoughts) are all are simply thoughts. As humans we are taught to subscribe to the meaning of thoughts, but for the most part, they are meaningless. It is our own minds that subscribe meaning to the thoughts and then we get caught up in them like a rat running on a wheel in a cage. If you let that rat run in a field, he will still run - but he runs freely without the cage. It's like thoughts. Let them run free but don't cage them so often.
    In the video above Les Aria (who is one of my favorite TMS doctors) mentions is Youtube channel called Myndfulness. He has just a few exercises there that are fast, and begin to teach you to still your body and your mind, and you might enjoy them and use them to begin training your mind not to fear stillness or thoughts. He tells you how to do this clearly.
     

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