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Chronic epididymitis-TMS? HELP

Discussion in 'Support Subforum' started by WorriedUser, Dec 6, 2014.

  1. WorriedUser

    WorriedUser New Member

    Hi all,
    My name is George, I'm 17 years old and I have been suffering with 'chronic epididymal and groin pain'. It all started out with what I also believe was a initial infection (non-STI) the antibiotics removed the pain after a few days of starting treatment. However I didn't finish the treatment due to a blow up of pain and muscle twitches all over my body (I thought it was the tablets- side effects). But this was more likely mental trauma of the pain that stared off the pain TMS cycle that I still have to this day. The groin pain went away for a while but soon came back- I was fearing its return as the mental trauma was unreal... And it did...
    Now it's a constant discomfort and pain that doesn't really go away. The only time is does is when I'm sleeping at night (which is odd because pain usually keeps you up). My pain changes from a burning to an aching feeling you get in your abdomen before you ejaculate? But reversed in a negative sensational feeling.
    I have been to several doctors and had ultrasounds, tons of urine tests and physical exams and they can't really find anything wrong besides epididymal cysts whitch they dismissed. The pain is in my right testicle and I really struggle to believe this is TMS as it hangs so much lower than my left (swelling). I have finally came across Sarno and this theory and am beginning to accept what it is...I have read Sarno and I totally understand how this works. I fit the personality for TMS also. Infact I've had problems with TMJ too.. Also 'esptein-Barr syndroyme' (an illness like glandukar fever that lasted for months- yet no infection was found) this happened at a stressful time also.
    I have read that all this pain and swelling can be caused by muscle tension in the pelvis, which I am also beggining to accept. I have a hyper excitable nervous system now and suffer with constant muscle twitches... And get tingling too. I've had this for ages and has been proven to be nothing serious..
    I need your help and Reassurance that this is what it is. I've had this pain for almost a year now...! If this is TMS I really need to be properly convinced. I am trying so hard to believe.

    Please get back to me,
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  2. AaronAI

    AaronAI New Member

    Hey George,

    I don't give my insight very often on the forum, mostly because I'm still recovering from TMS, and aren't exactly in a position to help others fully. That said, I read your post today and knew I needed to reach out. I'm 25, and I too had epididymitis for nearly a year, but was able to fully recover using TMS principles/therapy. I can only imagine what it's like having it at 17. I won't go in too much detail on the forum, as I feel a phone conversation would help you a lot more. That's what I needed when I first came to the forum and started this journey, however, there wasn't anyone out there that I could reach out to directly and talk with in person. The frustrating part for me in the beginning was that although there's been a few people talk about epididymitis on the forum, it's wayyyyy less common, or at least less talked about, then back pain, neck pain, headaches, etc. I felt super lost, so hopefully you can avoid that all together by me helping out and giving you some insight and reassurance that what you're going through is without a doubt TMS.

    I'm excited to help out. I'm PM'ing you right now to give you my number. Stay strong man.

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  3. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    It's great that you two young fellows with mutual symptoms are connecting.
    Believing 100 percent in TMS is really essential. Just give in to that belief,
    as I did, and you will heal.

    George, if you have a perfectionist personality and also want everyone to like you,
    you are in good company. Many if not most of us have those traits.
    We have to learn to moderate them. We don't have to change them,
    just expect less of ourselves and others.
  4. WorriedUser

    WorriedUser New Member

    Hi Walt,
    Thank you... And it's really good to meet people who are going through the same thing.
    That sums me up 100%. I have always been a perfectionist... Not cocky..just a go getter and I just know I dont wanna settle for less. I've gotten quite far giving my age isn't the field of work and I kinda wished I had more time to just chill out and socialise. I definitely care too much about what others will think of me. I want to please everyone.

    My hardest problem is accepting this as TMS as I also am very stubborn... Rather my brain is very stubborn. This groin pain isnt the only manifestation of emotional stress I've had in the past.. But it's definitely the worst and I need it curing!

    If you or anyone can give me some advice I'd be more than grateful. This is ruining my life!

    Thanks again,
  5. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi again, George. Don't worry about not being able to accept belief in TMS 100 percent... at least not immediately.
    It took time for me. It was really easier than I thought. I just finally gave in and told my subconscious that my
    repressed emotions and perfectionist and goodist personality were causing my back pain. My subcon must have
    finally believed me, because the pain went away.

    Keep positive, practice deep breathing. I posted about deep breathing yesterday in the General Discussion Subforum
    Take a look. It's one of my best ways to get through anything that gives me anxiety, worry, fear.

    Be glad you can ejaculate. It's healthy and very relaxing. I wish I still could, but I'm too old now (84).
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  6. WorriedUser

    WorriedUser New Member

    I guess I'll have to keep trying... There is definitely a lot of repressed emotions in me right now..but I feel like all this with my health is the only thing bothering me! It must be deeper than that... Thanks for your advice Walt... I'll be sure to check the breathing tips out.

    Haha but you being 84 gives me hope that I will get through this... In a way I'm glad this is happening at younger age so I can hopefully get through it now. All the best..

    Any more advice would be greatly appreciated... Just keep posting.

  7. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi George,

    Walt has given some great advice as usual. In addition, I would like to make the following points:

    1) Please don't put excessive amounts of stress on yourself to heal, strong emotions can intensify the level of pain we feel.
    2) Commence a SEP program, there is a fantastic one on this forum which has been devised by Alan Gordon.
    3) Keep reading success stories and building up your knowledge of TMS, belief, commitment and determination are your tablet to recovery.
    4) Don't put a time frame on your healing, again you are adding extra stress which can intensify or create new symptoms.
    5) Start thinking in the realms of your emotions, be more mindful, loving, caring and accepting to yourself and don't be your own worse critic. We often push ourselves too hard and too fast, for no extra value. Be complacent in what you do and know you have done your best.
    6) Listen to your emotions and yourself - if you need a break, take one, you deserve it.
    7) Finally, be assured its TMS, be positive and do something which will distract you; whether that is watching something funny, or meditating.

    Again, welcome to the forum and don't feel so alone, we are all here at different stages in our journey and support one another.

    May you discover what has hurt you and learn to be close to it and heal.

    God bless,

  8. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    lol@walt, you are too funny sometimes.
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  9. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    I am so glad you think I am sometimes funny.
    I have about the oddest personality and can be a real nut.
    A teenage guy posted today that his groin area TMS pain goes away
    when he services himself. I used to know all about that, but it is not one of
    the benefits of growing old.
  10. WorriedUser

    WorriedUser New Member

    Wow thank you Mike! This is exactly what I need. It's amazing to see all the support im getting here... I feel it is allowing me to finally fully accept this for what it is.. Which I know is going to take time. I specifically can relate to your advice about rushing to heal... I'm a very inpatient person... Moreso because I've dealt with all this for a year and I'm in a way mad at myself if it is TMS!

    I really appreciate all your advice and I will begin to start trying to follow it properly, taking my time as I do. I will keep updating you guys of my journey and for others who may be experiencing the same pain in the same area (I've already came across a few). Thanks again, God bless

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  11. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    George, one of my favorite authors was the humorist James Thurber,
    author of the Topper books about a henpecked husband which were made into very funny movies.

    One of his books spoofed psychology and was titled LEAVE YOUR MIND ALONE.
    I often think he had the right idea.

    I often find that TMS thinking can be painful, so I distract my mind with funny movies.
    New ones turn me off, but thank heaven there are plenty of 1930s-1960s comedies on dvd.
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  12. WorriedUser

    WorriedUser New Member

    So today I've adapted to the TMS theory a lot more... I had work but I had half the pain I usually have. I found that whenever I felt a twinge, that this time I didn't try and investigate to see if there was swelling. I tried to just take my mind off it and say 'the pain is TMS, its all psychological'. This did work to a certain degree... But I know I still have a lot of time and work to go...

    The thing I mostly struggle to accept is the swelling/Size/weight of the testicle.. Does TMS usually do this? I think this is the only thing reminding me of a physical possibility... Could this all be to do with my nerve issues??... Nevertheless I'm going to keep trying with the TMS theory... As it's the only thing that occasionally has brought me mild relief. Any advice would be appreciated! I'll keep you all posted.

  13. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    I don't know about the swelling, etc., but if you think about those things it could keep them with you.

    It's best not to monitor any symptom, just accept them as TMS and work on your repressed emotions
    and/or perfectionist or "goodist" personality and try to modify them.
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  14. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi George,

    Welcome back :)

    It's great that you have adopted the theory and now believe it's psychological and not structural. Try and dig into exactly which emotions are fuelling your pain. There are many techniques within the forum that can be beneficial. I would highly recommend starting a SEP as this will provide you with some crucial tips on how to recognise your emotions, release them and help you reprogram your unconscious mind and re-wire those pathways of pain which have been incorrectly enabled. This is not something that can be changed immediately and healing occurs at different times for different people. I put this down to commitment, belief and social conditioning.

    MindBody symptoms can manifest in any shape or form including swelling, I have read quite a few books that mention it, so please do not worry or add extra stress, like I said yesterday the strength of your emotion reflects the intensity and severity of your pain. Be gentle and loving to yourself, knowing you will heal and recover.

    I am about to post a video by Bruce Lipton at the EFT Tapping conference and I would recommend you give it a watch this evening, it re-iterates everything we have said.

    Keep at it and be strong, you definitely will get better.

    All the best,

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  15. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    Mike, wonderful advice for a boost of confidence in TMS.
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  16. WorriedUser

    WorriedUser New Member

    Wow Mike. Thanks again for all the useful guidance... I am finding myself needing reassurance constantly. But I know if I try some of these techniques you listed I will prevail. THIS IS TMS! What I need to fully accept.

    Like you say, I also need to focus on the emotions more. I know I'm angry and frustrated, and I know the conscious reasons... But there has to be something deeper!

    Thanks for all the advice Walt and Mike all I can do is keep trying the advice you and the forum gives me.

    God bless,
  17. WorriedUser

    WorriedUser New Member

    Wow after watching the video Mike sent me... I am now able to realise why I haven't been getting no where. The first negative experience of me getting epididymitis truly gave me trauma.. And me being the typical TMS type over worried and allowed this to happen. This trauma must have been recorded in my subconscious mind and is now stuck as a program. the program which I can't control consciously is giving me the epididymal pain in the background... And I'm shouting it to stop, which is actually just my conscious mind shouting at my concious mind. This makes me angry because nothing is changing... And that builds to the negative subconscious recording of the pain and makes it worse...

    It all makes sense now.

    I have to somehow find a way to reprogram my subconscious so that program of the fear of epididmal pain is removed.
  18. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle


    I'm glad it all makes sense now. I just stumbled across that clip today, there are many others in the MindBody media library.

    George, like I said, please try one of the SEP, they have been tried, tested and work. :)
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2014
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  19. WorriedUser

    WorriedUser New Member

    Hi guys,
    So I thought I'd give you a brief update... I took mike's advice and have started a SEP. It really helps to hear about other people's problems and find out how they're reactions to the pain (no matter where it is) is exactly the same of mine. This condition sums me up to a key, and considering ive had no diagnosis from various doctors... This gives me more confidence it's TMS. I'm still having flare ups of pain throughout the day... And I still find myself checking for swelling, however there no not much correlation between the swelling and pain... So I'm sure it's just me overthinking AGAIN. I am able to shrug the pain off after a while when I genuinely stop giving a ..... But this usually when I have no worries throughout the day.
    I still have a long way to go and deep down I haven't yet accepted this 100% due to the visual difference! However watching some videos of people suffering from back pain and having tender/painful points proved that just because my testicle is slightly more harder and tender than the other... It doesn't mean it's not a mental problem. My BRAIN is causing this to happen.

    Anyway Ive done my SEP for today... So I figure doing something to distract myself fully would be a good idea. I'll keep you all posted in the future!

  20. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Great news George,

    Determination, belief and knowledge will see you through.

    I'm glad you have started a SEP and finding some relief.

    It's a long journey, I know, but in many ways TMS its probably a journey best walked than run, at least you can understand yourself and heal on a deeper level.

    God bless,


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