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SI joint dysfunction, ligament laxity, TMS

Discussion in 'Support Subforum' started by ng88, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. ng88

    ng88 Newcomer

    in 2014 only 4 short months after getting married I had a debilitating life injury. I herniated a disc in my back and was diagnosed with sacroiliac joint dysfunction and ligament laxity. I have been getting adjustments 2- 3 times a month from an osteopath for nearly 4 years. I have done pure PRP 7 times, prolotherapy 3 times, physical therapy 4 times (in my fourth stint now), worn an SI belt and even consulted for surgery.

    My osteopath recommended I read Sarno's book The mind body connection and I feel like I've been given the greatest gift. After reading the mind body connection I truly feel I have TMS.

    When I acquired my "injury" it was in one of the most emotionally chaotic times of my life. I had recently been diagnosed with severe depression and realized a lot of things about my childhood that are hard to digest. All I did was sit down and stand up and my back went completely out and has never recovered since.

    My hip tends to go out of place anytime I get emotionally stressed. My back hurts for the same reason. Just recently I have just started to have some relief and progress, when I decided I should seek therapy and try clinical hypnosis. I discussed very serious upsetting material with my therapist and 1 day later my back went completely out and same with my hip. I haven't been this bad in months.

    I'd also like to note that when my back started to feel better, I started having random shoulder pain which I never experienced my entire life. I also started having chronic migraine.

    I want to beat TMS and go on with my life, but I'm a bit afraid to give up adjustments and such especially since my hip pops out of place... Although I feel I know I have to. I had no light at the end of the tunnel, but now I see that there is a light.

    I just want to know if anyone has had a similar story and a successful outcome. I appreciate it!
  2. Orion2012

    Orion2012 Well known member

    Sarno is truly a gift. Knowledge is the cure. Let go of the idea that your pain has a physical cause. Do you really need the adjustments any more than you think you do? I gave up chiros, inversion, physical therapy, injections, pills, etc. No regrets!
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  3. karinabrown

    karinabrown Well known member

    Hi ng88,

    I’ve been there too ;
    Si joint missery, started after a silly sliding on a floor. In a highly stressfull period of my life.
    I cannot speak for you medically : but It sounds the same as the stuff i had.
    I went to orthopedic surgeon, had xray , mri. Had pt , Chiro.
    It felt as my hip popped out of place : exact as you discribed and like my si joint was totally stuck. For a long time i believed all the : twisted pelvis’ , leg lenght stuff’ some of them told me.
    It made me so scared.
    Now i know its nothing like that.
    In my option its stress and tide muscles.

    I stopped adjustments and all the strenghting your back ‘ stuff right after i
    found the website painsience.com
    Only thing i did when it felt off’ : was do the basic si joint exersizes you can find on the internet.
    It went away without adjustents
    but with relaxing and walking and putting my mind of it

    Sadly i developed different pain in another place. But its good to Remember this. Hope it helps you
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  4. Sybilk

    Sybilk Newcomer

    I have also been diagnosed with SI joint dysfunction and lax joints. I had lots of back pain, tingling down my legs, numbness in one leg and both feet. I found a good PT who helped me with the SI joint stabilization and also wore SI belt for a few months. But I still had the issues with the leg pain, etc. [For what its worth My PT and doctors all advised me not to get adjusted because I have lax joints - they said I needed to get more stability and adjustments would only serve to loosen things up! So I would stop the adjustments and work on stability…]
    My PT also gave me Sarno's book to read and within 3 days all the leg pain, numbness, and tingling was gone! I also noticed that around the same time, I forgot about the SI problem, stopped wearing the belt, and have never had that problem since...
    But just when I thought I was 'cured,' the neck and shoulder pain kicked in! For a few months the pain would move back and forth from the back the neck, etc. A few times I also got some ankle/foot pain. Now after a few more months it feels like the TMS is actually 'giving up' and the bouts with pain are less frequent and less severe. I try ignore them as best I can and I'm also beginning to recognize the triggers for pain. I personally would give up the adjustments.
    I hope some of this helps! I think your symptoms are very normal for TMS and yo are on the right track! You are getting closer to the end of the tunnel for sure!
  5. Sarah79

    Sarah79 Peer Supporter

    I had foot pain for eighteen months; tried everything, including wrapping it in clingfilm with turmeric oil suppposedly attacking the inflammation underneath. Anyway, I eventually had an MRI after lots of specialists said that they had no idea what it was and guess what...? It came back clear. And when it did, all the pain went away. Anyway, here I am about a year on with alleged SI joint dysfunction (which a lot of doctors don't actually believe in, by the way) and a twisted pelvis and I genuinely believe that it's TMS (again - we have to be fierce in our understanding that if we don't beat it on the head, it will pop back up again). A brief history - depressed, absent father, poor bonding with my mother which continues to this day (am almost 40), a stammer, bullying at school from an early age where I learnt to 'freeze' my emotions (see Steve O's book, The Great Pain Deception), sexual assault, rape, poor achievements, huge anger, frustration, tendency to procrastinate, inability to feel my emotions in the main - I consider myself functioning at a 'benign neutral,' most of the time, while this silent ocean of black anger goes untended to. And oh, my symptoms - shoulder issues which two arthroscopies didn't solve, the foot pain, allergies, upset stomach as a child, frequent urination, neck gets 'stuck' sometimes, TMJ...

    I'm not going to diagnose you over t'interweb, but it sounds very possible and the fact it's moving around, as it did with me, sounds both familiar and very 'TMS.' Once it finds a place that you give medical credence to, and a twisted pelvis (ditto) and SI joint dysfunction sound very 'mechanical,' it's not going to let go easily...
  6. Sarah79

    Sarah79 Peer Supporter

    Oh, also - I was having an osteopath appointment and she told me the left side of the SI joint had jammed completely, so did a manipulation. I went back the next week and she said, 'oh, the right side's jammed,' but the pain was still on the left. I asked her for an explanation and she couldn't really give me one. I can remember lying there, with my arms through my legs as she did something else, thinking, 'well, if the right side is jammed and NOT causing pain, then the left side shouldn't cause pain when it's jammed, so maybe it's not that at all....' Interesting
  7. TG957

    TG957 Well known member

    Had a very similar thing with the hip, incidentally 4 months after getting married to a wrong guy. Hip got better after we split up, but upper back started hurting. But here is the fun part. I love backpacking. So, I get on the trail with a heavy pack on and burning pain in the hip. 20 miles on the trail and couple nights sleeping on the rocks - pain is gone. I go back to the city life and my comfy bed - pain is back. Sarno fixed my hip. It hurts occasionally, but I no longer go to chiropractors - I meditate.
  8. karinabrown

    karinabrown Well known member

    The ‘twisted pelvis ‘ ‘thing ‘ hold me hostage for 2 years thanks to a chiroptactor (i was a painvirgin’ in the beginning : believed everybody and everything thought they where all specialist) finally had an xray and mri done by a very friendly helpfull female orthopedic sergeon : who told me : your Si joint and hips are fine : and by the way : ‘there is no such thing as a twisted ‘ pelvis ‘
    She could not explain my pain !

    Also my foot mri was clear : sadly and strangly this never helped me.
    Crazy isn’t it ? Too me the whole mess in diagnoses made it worse .. all this contradictions

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