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where to start

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Canada Mike, Feb 11, 2016.

  1. Canada Mike

    Canada Mike New Member

    I a awaiting the great pain deception. I have a lot of tms symptoms. Pain is there but is not the main issue. Where would I start to recover?

    Is there somethin that focuses on non pain issues to help me get started on accept?

    Thanks folks

  2. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi, Canada Mike. Welcome to the TMS healing community. Two of the best ways to start TMS healing is 1) read Dr. John Sarno's book, Healing Back Pain. 2) Start the Structured Educational Program, free in the subforum of this web site, which will help you to discover the emotional causes of your pain.

    And practice these 12 Daily Reminders from Dr. Sarno in that book. I especially like the extended version from Herbie, a great friend of this web site:

    Herbie’s Extended Version of Dr. Sarno’s 12 DAILY REMINDERS

    1. The pain is due to TMS. This is real pain or anxiety but it is caused by subconscious tensions and triggers, stressors and traits to your reactions and fears and also when at boiling point your conscious tension can and does also cause real pain.
    2. The main reason for the pain is mild oxygen deprivation. This means that when you get in pain or anxiety then the blood is restricted from going to your lower back, for instance. The blood being restricted causes oxygen deprivation which causes the pain. Remember, where there is no oxygen then there is pain in the body. Also, the pain stays because of fear.
    3. TMS is a harmless condition caused by my REPRESSED EMOTIONS so even though you think you can harm yourself from the years of pain you have felt and how you feel in general -- so far no reports have been heard from TMS healing knowledge causing damage to anyone, it only helps.
    4. The principle emotion is your repressed ANGER -- this means under your consciousness lies something that happens automatically to everyone. TMSers have repressions that are stored because of our personality traits, traumas, stressors, fears, strain, etc... When these stored repressions build and build, then eventually they cause the brain to send pain into your body to keep you from having an emotional crises. The mind-body thinks it is helping you.
    5. TMS exists to DISTRACT your attentions from the emotions, stressors, tensions and strains of your personality traits because if you can get distraction then you won’t have to be in emotional turmoil. When you don't face and feel your emotions and they get repressed because you didn't want to deal with something -- they are just adding up in this beaker, ready to pour over and create real pain and anxiety in your body.
    6. Since my body is perfectly normal, there is nothing to fear. So in reality when I fear the pain or anxiety I just cause myself undo strain and tension adding to the beaker of pain. If I fear, then I feed the pain, If I fear, it’s impossible to recondition. Fear keeps the pain and anxiety alive in the body through focus.
    7. Therefore, physical activity is harmless. If I want to work against the pain I could but it’s better to lose some of the pain so when I start my life over I have to be in pain trying to heal because facing the repressions and all the other activities that cause the pain and reversing my fear and focus to them, then I can heal.
    8. I am resuming all normal physical activity. I don't fear moving anymore. I believe in my body’s ability to heal now. I can move as I want. I will not fear moving with a bent back anymore. I will also practice going out and acting normal again, not in fear of what pain might do to me.
    9. The pain is unimportant and powerless. Its only power is how it is hidden -- its illusion, its fear.
    10. I will keep my attention on the emotional issues. I will think about my emotions and feel my emotions throughout the day. I will not judge, criticize or fear my emotions. I will not run from my emotional issues but face every one of them. I will feel my emotions fully and cry if I need to. Then I will release the emotion and get my mind and thoughts back to my life and living in the present.
    11. I am in control of all of this. This is how I recover.
    12. I will be thinking PSYCHOLOGICALLY AT ALL TIMES. This means I will keep my thoughts on psychological issues like happiness, fear and anger -- traits and triggers, conditioning and journaling -- The science behind mind-body/TMS healing, etc.... This way I will not feed my thoughts to the body -- that is a trick of TMS. TMS will always try to get me to focus on the body caused by the pain until I break its show and flair. When I get my attention off physical symptoms and on to emotional issues and psychological issues then I will not feed the fear of the physical issues anymore, thus making the TMS of no pain effect on the body. This will in return, give us the cure and become pain-free.
  3. Canada Mike

    Canada Mike New Member

    Thanks for the reply Walt. This Is a great start for me.

    Walt, how does one go about accepting thing other then pain? Is there a list of mbs symptoms somewhere?
  4. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    To pinch @Tennis Tom signature...

    "...there are so many things little and big that are tms, I wouldn't have time to write about all of them"
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  5. Tennis Tom

    Tennis Tom Beloved Grand Eagle

    Thanks for the pinch Mike2014, it hit the spot and and my hip's better now. I pinched the quote from someone who Dr. Sarno told it to over at the TMS Help Forum, I think it was "icelikeaninja".

    Canada Mike, "Dr. Sarno's 12 Daily Reminders" that Walt gave you are a good tool, they're great TMS affirmations! You can also probably find a Youtube version of them with some cool musical background. SteveO's "GREAT PAIN DECEPTION" has one of the most comprehensive TMS symptom lists in the Appendix in the back.
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2016
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  6. Canada Mike

    Canada Mike New Member

    Thanks for all the replies. This forum seems like a group of kind caring, patient people.
  7. giantsfan

    giantsfan Well known member

    Hi Mike, welcome! I'm only a month into this recovery, but one thing I wanted to add which can happen with people who are perfectionist/goodists (like me and many TMS'ers) is that we want to rush rush rush and learn everything to get rid of all the symptoms. It's completely understandable and if you are really enjoying the constant learning you may want to keep doing so, but personally I've had times recently where it started to feel like homework and all the constant "I have to journal this for so many minutes, read that, watch this" started to become more detrimental than beneficial to my recovery.

    I think it's day 7 of the structured educational program (SEP) that has a video by Forest that explains what I am talking about. Personally though I didn't put his good advice about going at your own comfortable pace in use after watching it. However now I'm taking all of the learning at my own comfortable pace. Take care :)
  8. Gigi

    Gigi Well known member

    Welcome, Mike!
    I'm a big fan of the SEP for two reasons: 1. It introduced me to many great resources and helped me to address issues that I didn't think had been a big deal and 2. You really can go as quickly or as slowly as you'd like. As giants fan mentioned, many of us have that perfectionist streak that leads us to plow through at light speed. However, a bit of time for thoughtful introspection goes a long way.
    Blessings on your journey.
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  9. Simplicity

    Simplicity Guest

    Welcome to the forum, Mike.

    I started with the Unlearn Your Pain program and I love it, I would certainly recommend it. Self Help For Your Nerves is an excellent book if you're dealing with anxiety issues (which a lot of us do), it has helped me tremendously. I have yet to read The Great Pain Deception, but I know a lot of people here love it. I think a program like SEP or Unlearn Your Pain is a good start.

    Best of luck to you!
  10. Canada Mike

    Canada Mike New Member

    Thank you all.
  11. Canada Mike

    Canada Mike New Member

    It's interesting how Claire Weeks is different then John Sarno. To an extent I agree with both authors.

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