I am confused about what is TMS and what isn't. It seems quite clear from Dr. Sarno's books as he lists a range of conditions. Steve Ozanich has a more extensive list yet TMS doctors seem to disagree with some of this and each have their own views. Every attempt I make to boost belief, ends up in a mountain of doubt being added by an 'exert' in the field. For example, I listened to an interview with Dr. Schechter today on the Mind and Fitness Podcast (the podcast of the guy who now admins the 'Work of Sarno & Ozanich' Facebook group) and he was saying that lots of people are really a mixed diagnosis of part TMS and part structural (he said that herniated disks do cause pain if large 7mm and the the location of the pain lines up) and the other week, the podcaster had David Hanscom on the show saying similar things. If herniated disks now do cause pain, then what else really does too?! Who do I believe? So how are those of us with conditions not outlined by Sarno meant to know if we fall under TMS? It's all about belief. Yet we have no way to get a firm diagnosis. Feels like a catch 22. If we go to a TMS doctor we won't get a firm answer. Seeking others who have healed from the same condition seems the thing to do but I, like many others, have come up short here. (I have pelvic congestion syndrome, irritation and inflammation of pelvic nerves and possible adenmyosis and pudendal neuraglia. I have found women with tales of pelvic pain recovery but very different symptoms and all had clear MRIs and no actual findings.) It seems some people are so confident in their assertion that nearly everything is TMS and others are much more conservative. I have been applying TMS for some time without improvement. How does one build belief when essentially I am just HOPING I fall under a TMS diagnosis? When you've applied TMS with no results at all, do you take that as a sign this is not the right path?