I met with Dr. Schubinder last week, very positve evaluation regarding my TMS history. I gave him my MRI. With my permission he allowed an orthopedic to assess and determined there is structual damage to the menincus and some arthritic changes. The ortho doc thought my up coming surgery will be positive. Dr. Schubinder assessed there is physical damage. I found and read the Baylor knee studies. As I mentioned before the knee pain is so very different for me then the back issues. There is daily pain, sorness to physical manipulation to knee. I begin reffing basketball Dec. 1. I am scheduling games now. I'm just having a difficult time with the psychological part of the healing to the knee. On top of this I start my 325 mile 4 day bike trip Thursday. When I ride the knee is find. When I get off the bike, the stiffnees and pain is pretty severe. So thats the scoop. Appreciate comments, especially from Steve O if your out there. Thank you.