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The pain returns ..HELP

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by ariel233, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. ariel233

    ariel233 New Member

    Hello friends
    im 17 years old male and had tms.
    (yes i know is suprising lol)
    it all starts excatly year ago with first ibs and then sleep problems and the pain ohh the pain.
    In lucky i find dr.john serano book "the mind body presscription" in last augost .. and slow but safe all the symptoms start gone and for 3 months that i feel great!
    but from last week the symptoms returns - my ibs start again , the pain back (less pain but still) and even i wake up in the night and difficult to return sleep 2 days in a row!
    now my question is if the pain returns also to you and what can i do ?
    by the way my english not so good but i think that you will understand me.
  2. Walt Oleksy

    Walt Oleksy Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi, arie. I think your pain has returned and moved around because it is caused by TMS. You might also read Dr. Sarno's book Healing Back Pain,
    and also start the Structured Educational Program, free in the subforum of this web site, to learn the emotions causing your pain.
    For sleep problems, I suggest you practice deep breathing and tell yourself you will worry about things, including pain, in the morning.
    There are wonderful videos on Youtube for deep breathing and relaxation for sleeping.

    Dr. Sarno suggests 12 Daily Reminders about TMS healing in his book Healing Back Pain. Another of our TMS community, Herbie, posted this extended version of them:

    Herbie’s Extended Version of Dr. Sarno’s 12 DAILY REMINDERS

    1. The pain is due to TMS. This is real pain or anxiety but it is caused by subconscious tensions and triggers, stressors and traits to your reactions and fears and also when at boiling point your conscious tension can and does also cause real pain.
    2. The main reason for the pain is mild oxygen deprivation. This means that when you get in pain or anxiety then the blood is restricted from going to your lower back, for instance. The blood being restricted causes oxygen deprivation which causes the pain. Remember, where there is no oxygen then there is pain in the body. Also, the pain stays because of fear.
    3. TMS is a harmless condition caused by my REPRESSED EMOTIONS so even though you think you can harm yourself from the years of pain you have felt and how you feel in general -- so far no reports have been heard from TMS healing knowledge causing damage to anyone, it only helps.
    4. The principle emotion is your repressed ANGER -- this means under your consciousness lies something that happens automatically to everyone. TMSers have repressions that are stored because of our personality traits, traumas, stressors, fears, strain, etc... When these stored repressions build and build, then eventually they cause the brain to send pain into your body to keep you from having an emotional crises. The mind-body thinks it is helping you.
    5. TMS exists to DISTRACT your attentions from the emotions, stressors, tensions and strains of your personality traits because if you can get distraction then you won’t have to be in emotional turmoil. When you don't face and feel your emotions and they get repressed because you didn't want to deal with something -- they are just adding up in this beaker, ready to pour over and create real pain and anxiety in your body.
    6. Since my body is perfectly normal, there is nothing to fear. So in reality when I fear the pain or anxiety I just cause myself undo strain and tension adding to the beaker of pain. If I fear, then I feed the pain, If I fear, it’s impossible to recondition. Fear keeps the pain and anxiety alive in the body through focus.
    7. Therefore, physical activity is harmless. If I want to work against the pain I could but it’s better to lose some of the pain so when I start my life over I have to be in pain trying to heal because facing the repressions and all the other activities that cause the pain and reversing my fear and focus to them, then I can heal.
    8. I am resuming all normal physical activity. I don't fear moving anymore. I believe in my body’s ability to heal now. I can move as I want. I will not fear moving with a bent back anymore. I will also practice going out and acting normal again, not in fear of what pain might do to me.
    9. The pain is unimportant and powerless. Its only power is how it is hidden -- its illusion, its fear.
    10. I will keep my attention on the emotional issues. I will think about my emotions and feel my emotions throughout the day. I will not judge, criticize or fear my emotions. I will not run from my emotional issues but face every one of them. I will feel my emotions fully and cry if I need to. Then I will release the emotion and get my mind and thoughts back to my life and living in the present.
    11. I am in control of all of this. This is how I recover.
    12. I will be thinking PSYCHOLOGICALLY AT ALL TIMES. This means I will keep my thoughts on psychological issues like happiness, fear and anger -- traits and triggers, conditioning and journaling -- The science behind mind-body/TMS healing, etc.... This way I will not feed my thoughts to the body -- that is a trick of TMS. TMS will always try to get me to focus on the body caused by the pain until I break its show and flair. When I get my attention off physical symptoms and on to emotional issues and psychological issues then I will not feed the fear of the physical issues anymore, thus making the TMS of no pain effect on the body. This will in return, give us the cure and become pain-free.
  3. avik

    avik Well known member


    First off, ditto on everything Walt lists above.

    To add to that, when I get into a rut, I go back to what originally worked for me, which is reading Sarno!
    My advice to you is, just pick up his book(s) again, and read it even more intently and slowly than you did the time before.
    You will see new things and draw new correlations with your own experiences from the book, every time you read it.
    Also, try reading other books in the mind-body/psychosomatic space.

    Have you read Unlearn Your Pain by Schubiner? Excellent read and there is a workbook in there which I think you might find intriguing and effective.

    Keep reading...and learning...and making new discoveries about yourself.
    Its a life-long process and I promise you you will only get smarter and more effective in your pain-fighting-approach, as time goes on.

    Best of luck to you.
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  4. Walt Oleksy

    Walt Oleksy Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi gain, Ariel. Avik has it right... TMS knowledge is terrific and I don't mind learning more about myself and others. If put myself in other people's shoes, i realize they too have TMS and can cope with them better. I've come believe that a happy, healthy life is one part understanding myself and others, and the other part is forgiving, myself and others.

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  5. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Ariel, I recommend Dr. Sarno's last book, The Divided Mind, because it includes SIX chapters written by other mind-body practitioners - each of them giving the reader a slightly different point of view - it was in those chapters that I really got the sense of how big this subject is, and how different it is for each individual.

    The other book that many people here have found hugely helpful is Claire Weekes, Hope and Help For Your Nerves. She wrote this book in 1969 before Dr. Sarno started to develop his theories, but she knew all about the relationship between anxiety and physical symptoms, including "churning stomach" (IBS, right?). I can't recommend it enough, it is a small book and easy to read.

    Above all, Ariel, you are to be congratulated for learning about TMS while you are still so young! Some of us were a lot older when we finally learned how to heal ourselves. (I was 60). There will be setbacks as you encounter the normal stresses of life (and the state of the world today is enough to stress us all out, right?). But each time, you will learn how to deal with them better and faster.

    Do the Structured Education Program, and keep us posted, okay?

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  6. ariel233

    ariel233 New Member

    Avik, Jan and Walt , thank you very much on your advices.
    Avik , as i said before English is not my official language and the mibd body by dr sarano is the only book that translated to my language so its difficult to understand a whole book in english.
    You can recomand me some good articles about tms in a simple english (like the english that you write without a complicated words) ?
    thanks a lot :)
    Btw - i will try this program Jan , thanks

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