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Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Scytaic, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. Miaxoxoxo

    Miaxoxoxo Newcomer

    Hey scytaic, I’ve been getting the same symptoms as you, I’ve super stressed over the past month that caused me to have anxiety and depression, I’ve been constantly doing my research about what could be causing my symptoms at first I thought it was vulvodynia or an std so I went to get checked ( I’m still waiting for my results) I highly doubt it’s an std though. I was getting itchy and a burning sensation when I go pee but anyways I first had a flare up about 4 days ago, out of no where I was in bed and I got extremely horny tmi ... (mod edit) I got super scared and started thinking about people who have over 100 orgasms a day so that freaked me out even more. Ever since that day ... (mod edit) I’ve had 2 episodes where I get super horny that I feel like I’m about to orgasm and I believe that those episodes happened when I was extremely anxious . My arousal is constantly there and they get triggered by anxiety or when I think about which makes me believe that it’s stress that’s giving me these symptoms.
    I also sometimes feel pressure around my bladder area like if I need to go pee. I really hope these symptoms go away on their own. When I walk or when I’m in a car ride the arousal happens. I’ve tried talking to my boyfriend but he thinks I’m crazy and that it’s normal for someone my age ( I’m 18 ) to be constantly horny but these symptoms don’t seem normal to me...I hope I hear from you soon
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  2. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

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  3. Dorado

    Dorado Beloved Grand Eagle

    Two things:
    • I would avoid getting stuck in the cycle of discussing this topic with other individuals who are suffering but have seen little to no progress and do not have any answers. It's not going to help anyone; it's akin to asking someone who is $1 million in debt how to pay off your credit cards, or seeking advice from a pack-a-day smoker on giving up tobacco. Instead, focus on success stories and what those individuals did to overcome their challenges. I do not mean any disrespect by this - I sincerely wish I had only taken advice from people who had healed or were at least making great progress when I was still in a bad place. (Also, I agree with Jan: I've had people ask me to contact them outside of this site or even meet up with them for coffee. I say no. Not only does this violate the security and safety terms of the site, but you also run the risk of people becoming dependent on you and getting stuck in a cycle of reassurance seeking.)
    • I am sorry your brain zaps are back. You must understand that antidepressant withdrawal is not permanent. It is absolutely impossible for these drugs to cause permanent brain damage, as the issues caused by withdrawal are naturally healed by the body. A classic sign of "TMS" is having an injury heal, but then experiencing symptoms on and off. Your on and off symptoms are classic signs of TMS as well as proof that your brain is fully capable of functioning without experiencing symptoms such as - not limited - brain zaps (which are harmless overactive nerves). I will quote myself - this is going to be long, and the final comment I will make in this thread:
    I have not had ability to participate in forum discussions very frequently (this is not due to health-related issues or anything negative - I’m feeling fantastic, doing incredibly well, and truly living the best life I’ve ever lived!), but I wanted to ask you to please, please, PLEASE stay off the antidepressant withdrawal forums. Recall everything we’ve talked about here: http://www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/i-was-going-to-post-a-success-story-on-an-anti-depressant-withdrawal-forum.20225/ (I was going to post a success story on an anti-depressant withdrawal forum)

    Remember: injuries that healed long ago can continue to cause pain and/or other symptoms for weeks, months, years, and even decades due to TMS (which means nothing more than an overactive nervous system caused by emotions). This is essentially what central sensitization, phantom limb syndrome, etc. all are. Think about all the fibromyalgia patients on the “fibro warrior” forums, and then think back to the countless individuals who have overcome fibromyalgia. The forums mean absolutely nothing, except that some individuals are experiencing symptoms and claiming they cannot heal without realizing the role the mind-body connection plays in their suffering. Do not do this to yourself! You are going to be fine!

    I’ve listened to neurologists discuss patients who took too much MDMA, and serotonin receptors being “permanently burned out” is a total myth. The same applies to antidepressants. Focus on relaxing yourself. As Steve Ozanich says, when you experience symptoms, do not panic - ask yourself why your body feels the need to experience them. What is going on in your life? Symptoms are simply an indication that you are focusing on them and/or experiencing powerful emotions, even if you don’t realize it.

    Here is what Steve himself has written to me in this topic last year:
    Here is what he said to me after I continued to visit withdrawal forums after my session with him:
    And here is his response to me when I had nasty flare ups:
    Dr. Howard Schubiner, a medical doctor as well as a TMS expert, agrees:
    THESE DRUGS CANNOT CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGE, NO MATTER WHAT THE WITHDRAWAL FORUMS (WRONGLY) CLAIM. Here’s a lovely quote I found online back when I was greatly struggling:
    While some people may take longer to heal than others, nobody should be experiencing symptoms years later, regardless of how long they did or did not taper. For those who are, it’s because of powerful emotions. Withdrawal is real, but it eventually ends, and much sooner than the people on those forums are claiming. Remember that stress itself depletes serotonin, increases cortisol, activates the sympathetic nervous system, etc. Anyone who says they took two or five years to heal - or never healed - is stuck in a cycle they can 100% get out of once they fully understand what’s actually happening and address the situation. Let yourself heal by managing your stress and response to the symptoms.

    For the record, I basically had to come off Cymbalta cold turkey (my taper was incredibly fast) because it was making me super sick, worsening as time went on. Genetic testing showed why I was so ill - my body couldn’t process the medication, and there wasn’t a great substitute for me available (this is why I wish doctors would run genetic tests before prescribing these medications, sigh). Do I recommend fast tapering or employing the cold turkey method? Definitely not. I had to be monitored very closely by loved ones to ensure I didn’t have any emotions breakdowns. But was I at risk of permanent physical, mental, and/or emotion damage? No! Your brain is safe!

    An accumulation of trauma is the reason patients on these withdrawal forums have difficulty healing and moving on. The sympathetic nervous system was stressed out before the medication, and now the nervous system is stressed out without them. You may recall how I hadn't even read about alcoholic neuropathy yet, but I was already experiencing nerve pain after a single glass of wine or two. As my neurologist stated: my body was so stressed out, it was responding to everything like a major trauma! This applies to long-term withdrawal, too.

    My withdrawal thread discussed doctors realizing these patients are essentially stuck in sympathetic mode. Symptoms like brain zaps are nothing more than overactive peripheral cranial nerves, not permanent brain damage. It’s all about balancing and managing your emotions as well as your perception of life (whatever it may be, especially when you're dealing with hurdles - challenging, stressful, fruitless, a significant effort, depressing, unlucky, etc.). It's important to focus on developing positive strategies for living your best life!

    Do not forget neuroplasticity and how the brain changes throughout your entire life. Beautiful new neural connections are forming every day. Your management and perception of life can change. Think about how much freedom you have to begin the process of changing your entire life today - physically, mentally, and emotionally! You are not stuck in this place forever.

    I was diagnosed with everything from OCD to major depressive disorder to agoraphobia and more. I had severe Cymbalta withdrawal. My nervous system was screwed up from years of stress, to the point that the biofeedback psychologist my neurologist wrote papers with thought might actually be nerve damage (it wasn’t). I could go on and on. And now I'm in the best place I've ever been. Work toward freeing yourself!

    Please do not forget that doctors are unfortunately not perfect: think about all the patients who were told they were permanently screwed due to fibromyalgia, CRPS, spinal stenosis, carpal tunnel, back arthritis, disc issues, certain allergies, etc. Then recall how many of them healed. www.thankyoudrsarno.org is filled with these stories. There’s a reason Sarno was regarded as being “crazy” by some of his colleagues.

    This is also why Steve Ozanich says doctors can sometimes make us worse. My favorite neurologist used to tell me he was extremely concerned I’d eventually find a doctor who also believed something was wrong with me, leading me down a bad path (the biofeedback psychologist I previously mentioned ended up being that person). He begged me to stop seeing more doctors. It’s important to work with doctors who understand the mind-body connection. They don’t need to be “TMS” or Sarno experts, but they should recognize how the mind can affect the body.

    Remember how many people in specific countries claimed they had long-term whiplash after car accidents, while other countries did not experience this phenomenon at epidemic levels. Or how many people say they have foot pain even after their broken foot heals. “Permanent” withdrawal is no different. These people all healed long ago, but they continue to experience symptoms due to powerful emotions.

    I should also note that I took numerous supplements (including 5-HTP, tryptophan, inositol, l-tyrosine, zinc, fish oil, plus MANY others - note that some supplements you may read about elsewhere cannot be mixed together, and I was not taking every single one of my numerous supplements at once), ate a "perfect" diet, completely cut out added sugar, quit drinking alcohol, exercised, etc. to help with the withdrawal. None of it seemed to help. Why? As Steve said, I had healed from the withdrawal long ago, but was stuck in a cycle of symptoms the same way someone with long-term whiplash gets stuck.

    You've also got to do the work - which includes understanding and accepting what's truly happening, relaxing yourself, managing your emotions, and getting back to living life. These supplements are not required to heal (I would more heavily encourage meditation, exercise, and believing you are okay - all things I'd encourage in individuals without withdrawal, too, because they are simply good for you), but in certain individuals, they can alleviate some of the symptoms. Remember that supplements often require weaning, too. For me personally, if it had been many months since I got off the medication, I would be careful to not look at this as a "physical" problem that requires supplements and focus more on the meditation, exercise, and believing I am okay.

    Some of us saw a gradual decrease in our symptoms with some rough days, as opposed to them simply ending one day. Do not give up because you still experience brain zaps or other symptoms sometimes. It's okay! Just remember that it's not permanent and your emotions will make the symptoms stick around. The worst thing you can do is be afraid. The fact that your body has gone days or weeks without having many of these symptoms serves as the ultimate PROOF.
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  4. cathcnz

    cathcnz Newcomer

    I'm brand new to this site, and I have to say, that reading this thread has helped me hugely !!! @Scytaic your words were exactly what I have experienced, and I felt like you have the exact same thought processes as me. And so @Dorado, just like scytaic, I have found your posts soooo reassuring. And incredibly wise. And calming. And goodness knows the is so much fear in many forums, that it is so welcome to have calm rationale applied!!
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  5. Emilsen

    Emilsen New Member

    Hi Scytaic,
    I have been thinking about how you are doing, and whether you have been successful in the TMS approach with regard to PGAD? I hope you feel better!
    Best wishes Britt
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  6. Scytaic

    Scytaic Peer Supporter

    Hi, thanks for asking! I wish I had something more positive to say but no, I'm still the same as when I started sadly. Dorado has helped and reassured me massively though, I think I just may need longer to heal. :(
    Thank you again and best wishes to you too! :)

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