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Possible abdominal adhesions or psoas syndrome.....TMS?

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by ciaobella555, Nov 18, 2021.

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  1. ciaobella555

    ciaobella555 Newcomer

    I have been experiencing 24/7 pain on my left side. It started on my front lower left side then pain spread to my left hip and then to left back thoracic and lumbar spine. My chiropractor and massage therapist think it's adhesions from previous abdominal surgery. I had these surgeries over 20 years ago and never had any issues. This pain started almost 2 years ago after a very stressful time. I'm told my psoas muscle is also locked on the left side. I'm looking for any similar experiences and stories of recovery through mind/body methods. Thank you very much
     
  2. Cactusflower

    Cactusflower Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi @ciaobella555
    I have right side pain, and I do believe it has a lot to do with my psoas. I had abdominal surgery, however I think in my case the reason for the surgery may have actually been TMS pain, along with a physically apparent reason that may have been what physicians reasoned must have been the cause of the pain. In my case, I recognize I have probably had TMS since a child.
    Dani from MyTMSJourney also feels that the psoas may play a large role in TMS - it is long considered a muscle which can "store" emotion - or that we tense with emotion. https://mytmsjourney.com/resources/the-role-of-the-psoas-muscle-in-common-tms-symptoms/ (The role of the psoas muscle in common TMS symptoms)

    I have muscle tension and "compensation" in my abdomen as well as most places in my body. I'm tense all the time, and this tension follows specific patterns. It can be described as having rotated pelvis, overly pronated feet, body rotations, SI joint disfunction, overly extended posture and much more, often described as "compensations" by PT's.
    For many many years I've suspected that at least part of it is psoas issues. I've had lots of physical therapy, alternative therapies, myofunctional therapy, chiro... nothing worked and nobody has really figured out why. I have had abdominal surgery for endometriosis which I have read explained as TMS by some. I don't know. I do know that I had abdominal pain and low back pain for a very long time afterwards and gripped and held on to those muscles (still do!) Currently I have a ton of muscle knots in my abdomen.
    One thing I realize is that even if there are some physical issues, most of my "worst" times have been during times of extreme stress or emotional upheaval.
    TMS is described as a "stress illness" or a time for emotional reflection to change our perspective of how we view pain, how we have been leading our internal lives and release (or not) tension.
    Phil De La Haye is a UK TMS coach who describes similar symptoms that you have "left side pain" and hip pain. He is almost fully recovered now. Dani Fagan is fully recovered. Honestly, most folks just describe "hip pain" or "back pain" as a symptom they recover from without too much detail. Many have recovered.
    I am still in the middle of my journey to complete wellness. I wish you good luck on yours!
     
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  3. ciaobella555

    ciaobella555 Newcomer

    Thank you Cactusflower!
    I really appreciate your message. I'm sorry you are dealing with something similar. I have looked into the psoas muscle and I've learned about how it can store trauma and emotions. I have tried many methods to release the tension held there but so far I haven't been successful. I do follow he people you mentioned, Phil and Dani. What have you found most helpful for you as you go through this TMS journey?
     
  4. Cactusflower

    Cactusflower Beloved Grand Eagle

    @ciaobella555
    Loaded question since I’m having a tough day!
    Most helpful for myself is having a support team. When I desperately want to talk about symptoms, I have a TMS coach and now a psychotherapist that keep the mention of the symptoms 100% psychological and based on TMS science. I have another few team members who are able to address some of the physical, but I’m trying to use only TMS approach only so they are there if needed, but right now the physicality of their skills is not my focus.
    For me, meditation and somatic tracking are very helpful with anxiety. Having a very safe and comfortable place to unwind is also at the top of my list.
    I stretch and strengthen a bit daily and walk. No amount of anything physical has helped for very long.
    I try and spend time feeling my feelings in my body. Journalling was helpful with me at first but I simply often do not feel I get anywhere with it. I try daily, but doing eg what is described as “journalspeak” doesn’t work for me. It works for many and I hope I can get to the point it helps me.
    I read TMS books (and some self help books) - some have been helpful and some frankly have scared the crap out of me with their approach (or I just don’t relate to their mindset). My favorites right now are Alan Gordon’s The Way Out and Mary Ruth Velicki’s three book series (mind-body, not just TMS).

    Lastly, keeping an open mind about how this journey to wellness can evolve.
     
  5. hawaii_five0

    hawaii_five0 Well known member

    ciaobella: A ton of TMS success stories which you can filter by type (back pain, sacroilliitus, neck pain, etc.) here: https://www.sirpa.org/success-stories/ (Recovery Stories - SIRPA UK)

    You might have to read or watch them to see how close it is to your exact symptoms/situation, but maybe worth a shot. If nothing else they are very encouraging, if you are pretty sure you have TMS. If I need a shot of hope sometimes I watch one. Hope it helps.
     
  6. ciaobella555

    ciaobella555 Newcomer

    Thank you! I find the success stories so helpful and motivating.
     
  7. Sweetdaisy

    Sweetdaisy Peer Supporter

    Hello , I’ve been experiencing the same symptoms. Has this work helped you?
     
  8. Diana-M

    Diana-M Peer Supporter

    Hi,

    I have had similar symptoms for 3 years. It brought me to this forum 2 months ago. I think my biggest obstacle has been that these symptoms seem so unusual. But I am learning, there is honestly no limit to what TMS can do. If it scares you— it’s working. It will keep it up. So the goal is to get to the point where it doesn’t rule your life. Easier said than done!

    Right now, I can barely get out of my house. When I head to the door, my psoas grips me like a vice. It’s almost laughable. If I go back to the couch, it eases off. This TMS lizard brain of mine doesn’t want me to do anything. But that’s not living. So I’m fighting it. I go out anyway.

    For the past 30 years, I’ve had TMS, and without knowing about Sarno, many times I made it go away by ignoring it. So that’s a clue!

    This forum is a gold mine. I pore over it. Every thread has nuggets!

    Journaling seems to be universally discussed here as a significant healing factor. It’s hard for me and doesn’t seem to help much (yet). But I believe that perhaps I have a long way to chip through this rocky outer shell I have. And maybe one day, I’ll bust through all the way. So I’m sticking with it. In the meantime,‘I truly am learning a lot about myself and things that bug me. I had no idea!

    Fear causes tension. So we have to get rid of the fear. There are so many sources for it. Past trauma is one. For really bad stuff like mine, it takes a psychotherapist.

    Fear from this crazy world can also cause it. Sometimes you just have to dial that down by turning off social media or TV, or even friends and relatives that always bring negative and scary thoughts. The best TMS teacher on getting rid of the fear I have found is Dan Buglio. He has a daily 10-min. video. It is really worth it.

    I also do a daily app on anxiety. It’s called the DARE method. It is fantastic. I consider my symptoms to be a type of anxiety in my body, so I’m approaching it that way.

    The free courses here on the wiki are also a really good place to start. https://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/Structured_Educational_Program (Structured Educational Program)

    and

    https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/painrecovery/ (Pain Recovery Program)


    I hope any of this helps. But I can say, I believe we can heal. I really do. It’s just a lot of hard work.
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2024 at 9:58 AM

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