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No connection between physical symptoms and past/mind?

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by vanessa30, Aug 6, 2016.

  1. vanessa30

    vanessa30 New Member

    Im having trouble finding a connection between my symptom and my mind.
    I try (like Sarno and Schubiner say) to look inside me and see what I feel and think right now and what my physical symptom is trying to tell me but there is nothing. Even hypnosis or meditation didnt help with that.

    I have chronical muscle tenderness. That makes complete sense to me that that comes from inner tension and my physical reaction towards stress in the past and now. I can even feel that.

    But my main issue is a really disturbing feeling/sensation in my uterus area that sometimes even goes through my genital area into the legs. Its a little bit arousal like and definetly no pain. But it is so terrible (I dont find words to describe it) that Im losing my mind.

    I always read in Schubiners books that the symptoms people have are direclty linked to their past events.,e.g. a woman developed migraine as a child after her parents divorce and later developed interstitial cystitis after her own divorce.
    That connection seems pretty obvious.

    I have a weird pressure and sensations in my uterus area that sometimes goes thrugh my genital area right down in the legs. It isnt painful but is so disturbing that Im about to lose my mind and I lately developed panic attack because of it and on top of this feeling in my uterus comes now the panic when it starts. I never had any symptoms like this in my childhood before so where is the connection? Also- when this feeling is really intense and I try to take my look inside me like Schubiner says (What am I feeling right now etc) there is nothing I feel or think. Sometimes there is nothing on my mind and I dont feel anything and this feeling is there. In other situations for example when I feel a little bit anxious and I feel sick or have sweaty hands I can easily tell where that comes from and see the connections but not with this terrible arousal like feeling in lower stomach area.

    That makes me wondering If I really have TMS?

    Thanks for reading this.
  2. DUM00

    DUM00 New Member

    Hi, i have exactly the same kind of symptoms that you do, this creepy feeling in all the left side of my body. When i feel it, i start to tense, probably because i think i'll have a "pain" attack. The feeling is not painfull by itself, but rather the tension that comes automatically after it. I meditate a lot and i've realized that, even when i'm not thinking in absolutely nothing, i still have the pain. I, too, can't really find a traumatic event in my life that has been really serious, and in my rush to heal, i ended up "creating" a trauma, thinking that it might happen, or just making more severe trauma out of the ones that really are not. I would recommend you to try to avoid paying too much attention to the disturbing feeling, maybe that way it'll go away.
  3. readytoheal

    readytoheal Peer Supporter

    If you have tension headaches and muscle tension, it could be from pelvic floor tension. All that tension certainly sounds like TMS.
  4. vanessa30

    vanessa30 New Member

    Thanks for your answer. That is weird. Do you still think its TMS though? And no doctors could find anything physical? For how long is that going on? For me its almost 10 years
  5. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle


    You may just be really good at repressing your emotions to the point that you are experiencing alexithymia (inability to identify and describe emotions in the self). It may be helpful for you to work with a TMS therapist for awhile. There are many good ones listed on this site. Many will provide therapy through Skype.
  6. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi Vanessa, the fact that a Dr couldn't find anything wrong is clear evidence that that the nature of your ailment is TMS.

    However, because you still have doubt, it may be worthwhile to work with a TMS Dr or Therapist to provide you with the validation and assurance you need to continue.

    In addition, you may need to consult a psychologist who is familiar with mind body medicine and whom you can work with to uncover those emotions you are struggling to identify.

    Wishing you strength and courage on your journey.
  7. vanessa30

    vanessa30 New Member

    Hi, yes it really sounds like it but you are right I think I need to hear it from a doctor. Unfortunately, I live in Germany where nobody has a clue what TMS is. I already started a cognitive behaviorial therapy in January and we are working on topics like repressed feelings and anger as well but I think a TMS specialist would be better.
    I heard that some of them do Skype consultations? Im wondering what that costs.
    My partner is American though and we are going home for Christmas and in Texas there is a TMS therapist. Maybe I could see him but thats still a long time to go.
    Did you see a TMS therapist and did that help?
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  8. Tennis Tom

    Tennis Tom Beloved Grand Eagle

    Here are the TMS practitioners in Texas from the TMS Wiki list. I would suggest seeing the TMS physician, Dr. John Sklar, M.D., for a TMS work-up and an objective dx when you are there. Contact him now and explain your situation and maybe he will suggest a TMS practitioner he works with who you can skype with in the meantime.

    Jonna Lee Barta, PhD (Therapist)
    Dr. Barta is a licensed psychologist. She says "I have an individual private practice and I enjoy working with clients diagnosed with PPD / TMS. When working with PPD / TMS clients, I generally require that client to rule out any outstanding physical conditions first with a physician. Consulting a medical doctor who treats or understands PPD / TMS may be warranted, but in general the client can consult any doctor of their choice. It is generally recommended that clients read Dr. Sarno's books or information written by other experts in the field before starting therapy. It is best that the client has tried the suggested methods for treatment first (journaling, using Dr. Schechter's MindBody Work book, practicing learned techniques) before beginning treatment for PPD / TMS given they may experience symptom relief from these efforts.

    I received specialized training (a portion of my internship training, 1 year post doctoral training and 4 subsequent years of practice) working with clients diagnosed with chronic pain syndrome from a conservative pain management perspective. Although this treatment model is different from a TMS approach, this training has given me a greater understanding of the full spectrum of pain disorders and the etiologies of pain."(Source)

    101 W McDermott Drive
    Suite 109
    Allen, TX 75013
    (214) 629-6986
    Survey Response
    Insurance Accepted
    : Medicare, Medicaid, Unicare, PHCS, Corphealth/Lifesynch, BCBS, Aetna

    MaryAnn Schaffer, PhD (Therapist)
    One Killeen Center
    Executive Suite 108-7
    Killeen, TX 76541
    (254) 718-2952

    John Sklar, MD (Physician)
    Dr. John Sklar practices Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation in Fort Worth, Texas. He has been treating TMS for 20 years. Here he reviews "The Presence Process" by Michael Brown. "In it is a very good description of the cause/source of our unconscious conflicts (the one's that result in TMS). Then a 10 week process is described which will begin to allow the unconscious material to be integrated/digested. I believe that it describes the single best TMS treatment protocol on the planet (and I am not one to throw about such words lightly). At any rate you should be aware of this material. I have showed it to DR. Sarno who was initially quite skeptical (after I described it to him) but later was quite impressed. He believes it is great description of the source of repressed emotions (one of "the best" that he has seen)." (Source)

    Board Certified in Physical Medicine/Rehabilitation and Pain Medicine
    2500 West Freeway
    Suite 400
    Fort Worth, TX 76102
    (817) 870-1868
    TMS Wiki Profile / Forum Posts
    Insurance Accepted: Aetna, Cigna, Medicaid, Medicare, Workers Comp, PacifiCare, Humana, BCBS, United Health Care, Wellpoint
  9. vanessa30

    vanessa30 New Member

    Thank You so much! You People Here Are all so Kind and helpful its amazing!
    Thats funny I actually was gonna pick Dr sklar because My partners family lives close to Fort Worth. So thanks for The details and recommendation! I will Email him soon!
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