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Discussion in 'Support Subforum' started by Andy Bayliss, Jun 28, 2021.

  1. Andy Bayliss

    Andy Bayliss TMS Coach & Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi Everyone,

    I've been following the Long-Covid story pretty closely, including new findings, and medical treatments. I wanted to make a post of my thoughts on Long Covid, how it relates to TMS. None of what I write is certain, just some ideas.

    The work you see below may also apply to long-term vaccine symptoms. I think anyone who suffers from long-term symptoms from either Covid, or post vaccine issues (longer term) should do what they can to "eliminate the physical" just as we would for pain or other ailments.

    For Long-Covid this is not so simple, partly because so little is known about how it occurs, and also because --like so many TMS treatable symptoms, there could be huge overlap between what is physically caused and what is not.

    We know that after any physical trauma, including disease, there can be mind-body continuation because of neural pathways, stress, or the "need" to distract. We also know that many of the ailments of Long Covid such as brain fog, headache, fatigue, pain, racing heart, etc. have been quite successfully treated with a TMS approach. We also know that a TMS mind-body approach will often decrease symptoms, even if caused physically.

    We also know that blood tests are used to eliminate systemic causes of ailments. The mystery of Long Covid has been its cause, and therefore it has not been easy to test for markers. The work of Dr. Patterson has done linked below, may be a breakthrough in this area.

    Here are recent Long Covid, mainstream medical approaches. These do not (as far as I know) acknowledge Long Covid as a mind-body problem. I mention this because if I had long term symptoms I would try to treat allopathically (mainstream medical model), and then work with remaining symptoms as mind-body, or perhaps use both --fraught as this is, trying to ride two horses across a stream.

    The "problem" with the view of most doctors, and I assume this is true for these folks, is that the body is viewed simply a chemical/mechanical entity which can be fixed, if they only know the right keys. We at this forum know this view is inherently limiting. So here are the two strands I am aware of which are leading edge in medical treatment.

    The FLCCC has come out with a treatment suggestions, based on conversations with numerous physicians who have treated many. Here it is. Keep in mind that this is a working doc, like all of theirs, so changes will come, and they update them on this link.

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-recover-protocol/ (I-RECOVER Protocol | FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance)

    One of the members of the physicians who put this together is a Dr. Patterson. It is my rough understanding that he has found the "cause" of Long Covid. This paper came out I think just last week.

    Persistence of SARS CoV-2 S1 Protein in CD16+ Monocytes in Post-Acute Sequelae of COVID-19 (PASC) Up to 15 Months Post-Infection
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.25.449905v1 (Persistence of SARS CoV-2 S1 Protein in CD16+ Monocytes in Post-Acute Sequelae of COVID-19 (PASC) Up to 15 Months Post-Infection)

    I am not sure if Patterson's work got completely included in I-Recover protocol linked above.

    His outfit, with his crew of 100 physicians around the world, is here.

    https://covidlonghaulers.com/ (Covid Long Haulers)

    Here is Dr. Patterson interview, with Dr. Mobeen Syed (another contributor to the FLCCC protocol) as he discusses his findings.

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ynJOBBgQdzGR (Mobeen Syed MD @drbeen)


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  2. Cog

    Cog Peer Supporter

    Interesting Andy. Thanks for posting.

    The symptoms noted on their website really do look a lot like TMS to me. Of course we may never know for sure

    "Coughing and shortness of breath, debilitating fatigue, malaise and lethargy, cardiac dysrhythmias, insomnia, joint pain, headaches, brain fog, memory and concentration problems, neuropathic pain, GI discomfort including diarrhea, loss of appetite and weight loss."
  3. Andy Bayliss

    Andy Bayliss TMS Coach & Beloved Grand Eagle

    Dear Cog,
    You make a great observation. The mind is very, very powerful, so I don't want to discount TMS work in Long Covid!
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  4. Cog

    Cog Peer Supporter

    Saw this today. Interesting...


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