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Nicole Sachs, LCSW Journaling prompts—really good!

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Diana-M, Jan 1, 2025.

  1. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi everyone,

    These are some journaling prompts from Nichole Sachs’ new upcoming book, Mind Your Body: A Revolutionary Program to Release Chronic Pain and Anxiety.

    (I got them in a promo she sent to people who preordered. Shes also offering a free class to people who preorder. )

    They look daunting! I think I’ll dig in. Let me know if you do, too, and how it goes. Looking forward to learning more when the book comes out Feb. 4.

    What am I unwilling to feel?

    X really makes my blood boil.

    I wish I had said X to X when he/she confronted me.

    I feel so X about that recent decision.

    I wish I could change X about (person).

    I still believe I have to do X to be loved and accepted.

    I’m afraid to admit this, even to myself, but…

    My biggest secret is…

    I hate X about myself.

    I avoid feeling X at all costs.

    I wish I could say X to my (mom, sister, partner, son, etc)

    I’m scared of X the most.

    What really makes me feel hopeless right now is X, if I’m being totally honest.

    I refuse to accept that…

    Even though it’s been years, I still feel so much shame about…

    I am enraged by the way X behaves.

    I’m afraid X is missing from my life.

    I’m afraid to grieve (confront, accept, express)…

     
  2. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    I preordered too, but I missed this somehow! These are AWESOME. I think someone needs to bump this thread once a day :D
     
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  3. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

    I preordered too, but didn't receive this. @Diana-M you are special (in many ways).
     
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  4. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    I just reviewed my pre-order email acknowledgement "from" Nicole. It's dated September 20, which I believe was the first day or two that preordering was available. There were no links in the email to additional content - just promises of digital extras and the yet-unscheduled online event. I haven't received anything further, but I see now that the pre-order web page promises a downloaded PDF with journal prompts. I've sent an email query and I'll let you know what I find out, @Ellen!
     
  5. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    :DAfter you order, you have to take the order number and enter it into her website. Then she sends you an email with the bonuses.
     
  6. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    well crap, now I don't see how to do that after the fact. Apparently I should have done it right away while her web page was still in my browser after I clicked through to Amazon... her page won't accept my order number now.
     
  7. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

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  8. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Yep, already did that! I didn't expect to hear back right away, but I got an auto-response.
     
  9. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

    I remember doing this initially, but just did it again. Maybe it will work this time!

    Thanks for keeping us up to date.
     
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  10. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    I forgot to mention that Nicole advises journaling 20 minutes every day, followed by 10 minutes of soothing meditation.

    I just journaled on the first prompt. What am I unwilling to feel? The answer was anger. Some very interesting insights came out. It was actually uncomfortable spending 10 minutes to soothe myself afterwards. I just didn’t want to do it. And that was also insightful!
     
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  11. feduccini

    feduccini Well known member

    Just for comparison, since both carry Sarno's torch... Does Nicole's method include some kind of resolution journaling afterwards, like Schubiner's (and also Curable) or just recognising the feelings into paper is enough?
     
  12. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    I’m not totally sure, but I think she says you will come around naturally in your journaling to a resolution and peace about the topic.
     
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  13. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Nicole recommends 10 minutes of meditation which Diana referred to, which yes, is meant to calm and soothe and allow emotions to settle. I like to end any writing session with at least one thing for which I'm grateful or which I appreciate about myself (preferably both:)) - I picked up that recommendation somewhere along with the way, and since I typically resist the meditation :rolleyes: it's a decent way to wrap up.

    Nothing is written in stone. Any one author can't possibly cover all the possibilities or they'll lose their audience, but I have always believed that an important part of this journey is relaxing into what works for you. Curiousity is a powerful component to recovery.
     
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  14. diletant

    diletant Newcomer

    How do you avoid endless rumination cycles with JournalSpeak if the person you are angry with and hate is yourself? Every time I try Nicole’s journaling method I fall into a downward spiral of self-loathing that makes me more depressed. I must be doing it all wrong. Maybe the book will clarify it?
     
  15. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    @diletant, my heart breaks to see this. Please tell us a little more about your background, and about how much you know, books you have read, or programs you have done, regarding the mindbody connection (which we call TMS on this forum, in honor of Dr. Sarn0). Also, have you had therapy?

    To answer your question even though I know nothing about you or your background, I will state that self-loathing is developed in childhood. Always. Not "usually" or "typically". ALWAYS.

    If you would immediately like more insight into this, got to this short thread (linked below), go to the recommended link in that top post, and read the short explanatory article. Then answer the ten Yes/No questions from the highly-regarded "ACEs quiz", which will take less time than reading the article.

    Understand that the number in the score is meaningless in comparison to anyone else who answers the same questions! The significance of your score serves to identify the circumstances in your childhood which resulted in your current state of suffering. Once these are identified, you'll have a substantial starting point to actually work on your emotional awakening. I'm going to guess that it won't be easy, but it's very possible that right now, you are floundering on the surface instead of going where you really need to go. It sounds like you are ready to make that change. Or at least seriously consider it!

    This is a forum thread with a link and description of the "ACEs Quiz" and its relevance to physical suffering:
    https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/aces-quiz-online-printable-versions.27061 (ACEs "quiz" - online & printable versions) (ACEs "quiz" - online & printable versions)
     
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  16. diletant

    diletant Newcomer

    @JanAtheCPA

    Thank you for your kind response.

    Sorry my history is a bit longish: I found out about Dr. Sarno through a NYTimes article. Was interested because I’d developed chronic lower back pain in my 50s, diagnosed as arthritis. I also have had depression to varying degrees for most of my adult life.

    Did some reading of Sarno & also Alan Gordon’s book & worked a bit with the Curable app & podcast. Worked on many of the exercises like somatic tracking & meditation, but avoided the journaling, as in the past whenever I’ve tried to journal it turns into negative spiraling, mostly I guess because of the depression.

    Anyway, as I went through the books & app (minus the journaling), I had a revelation that my back pain started around the same time my dad went through his final illness. Pretty soon, my pain mostly went away, so I figured there must be something to all this mind/body stuff. But I have not been very consistent in keeping up with the practice since then.

    Over the past year I have had severe knee pain (diagnosed as torn meniscus), so I have returned to the TMS info (along with PT and exercise). Since Nicole was recently interviewed on Curable’s podcast, I’ve checked out her website, YouTube, & podcast, and thought maybe I should give the journaling another try. Have tried the JournalSpeak, but it very quickly spirals down with no revelations about what I’m angry about except myself. I haven’t been able to find anything about what to do in that situation. But I have not listened to all her info or read her first book, so maybe addressed there? Or maybe in her new book? Is there more to it than just no-holds-barred venting? Bear in mind, I have been doing this only a couple weeks--maybe I haven't given it enough time?

    As far as childhood trauma, well, it was pretty boring 1960s-70s suburban life. Parents were decent, but school was pretty nasty, as it was Catholic school in the hellfire-and-brimstone days when nuns beat up kids for misbehaving and being slow to learn. I learned pretty fast to be quiet and study hard, so I stayed safe, but many classmates didn’t.

    Yes, I have had therapy on and off and that was somewhat helpful. But my therapist retired, and finding somebody new feels overwhelming. I'd like to find a TMS practitioner, but the closest I’ve found in directories are well over 100 miles away, and I’m kind of hesitant about virtual therapy.

    You are right that I feel like I’m floundering, but I’m having a hard time figuring out where I need to go. Comments appreciated!
     
  17. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Thank you, @diletant, that's very helpful!

    The reason I recommend the ACEs quiz is because it actually gives you more focus for "doing the work". I had a better-than-decent upbringing with nurturing and progressive parents, and thank goodness no religious BS. But you may have heard Nicole say, as she often does, that "no one escapes childhood unscathed". I already knew that I was born with anxiety due to the circumstances of my mother's first pregnancy - so I was starting with that awareness, along with a realization from doing the Structured Educational Program back in 2011, that I experienced isolation during my childhood, somewhere around age 5 and so. I really put all of this together when I did the ACEs questions. Even though I couldn't even manage a full score of 1 from the list of adverse childhood experiences, the question about isolation triggered a realization that I actually undoubtedly WAS isolated for several years - a bit emotionally neglected, in fact - due to having been the anxiously-desired and possibly over-nurtured first child (after three years and a miscarriage) for almost two years, who was suddenly and rudely subjected to three younger siblings who came along every couple of years after me! LOL. No doubt my dear parents were quite overwhelmed (they only wanted two, as it turns out - but this was the fifties. My father had a vasectomy after the fourth - did I mention progressive?!) Anyway, realizing all of this explained a LOT, including why my mother would take me out of school every once in a while when I was about nine or ten, for a movie and lunch at the drive-in. I think she was making it up to me when she finally got the others into some form of daytime care (I would have been 9 when the youngest got into nursery school).

    Long story short, in the realm of adverse childhood experiences (the ACEs) none of this was earth-shattering or remotely traumatic by any stretch of the imagination - and yet the combinatnion of anxiety and brief isolation affected me and informed my emotional responses for the rest of my life. And indeed, I spent a lifetime with minor TMS symptoms that would go away as soon as a medical professional pronounced me to be perfectly fit and healthy, other than an obvious tendency towards anxiety. About which I did nothing, until I hit age 60 and my mind caused my body to react fairly radically to the inevitable existential crisis brought on by impending aging and mortality. Enter Dr. Sarno (and Claire Weekes and Gabor Mate) to save my life. That's the short story. Then there's my RA diagnosis as a result of multiple extreme stresses in the spring of 2020 (the pandemic was only one) and I have a bunch of opinions and successes around that. I'm trying to maintain my equilibrium in spite of the trash heap that was 2024 and is obviously not getting better any time soon. I struggle with disappointment that the world is in dire shape as I contemplate (at age 73) that it might not turn around in what remains of my life. This is all big-time shit that is much healthier to acknowledge than to repress - which of course is what basic TMS theory is all about. I'm still in better shape at 73 than I was at 60, thanks to this work.

    Answer the questions. Just do it, and be sure to be honest with yourself, which I think is part of your struggle. Just a Yes or a No. If you do the online one at the NPR link, you'll get a whole-number score. Technically my score is 1, but I feel like it's really more like a 0.2-something since I only experienced mild emotional neglect for 4 or 5 years out of 18, with 18 being the arbitrary age cutoff.

    I know that you know that you can't just "work a bit" and you definitely can't avoid, but my dear, you also can't beat yourself up for avoiding and resisting. This is not YOU, this is your brain on TMS. And your brain, for whatever reason, is really resistant! It is doing whatever it can to get you to avoid emotional vulnerability, because emotional vulnerability is terrifying. It is also required for recovery.
    Look, Nicole is a terrific resource (spoiler: she interviewed me on one of her podcasts, and I'm a super fan) and wouldn't you just love to be able to see her as your therapist? Sadly she doesn't do that anymore, although she does have at least two self-directed programs you can do if you are willing to make the difficult commitment to keep doing them even when your brain is trying to get you to quit.

    As Nicole says all the time, you gotta do the work. "Believe, Do the work, and Practice kindness and patience for yourself" is her mantra. But first you need to learn to love yourself, because if you can't love yourself enough to know that you deserve to heal, you will not recover. It's that simple.

    If you go to the podcast page on her newly-reorganized website and put self compassion into the search box, you will get a list of episodes where self-compassion is addressed. Here's one from 2020 and the title may resonate. I need to copy this over to another thread that's currently going on... #85 S1 Ep85: Episode 85 - When The Person You Hate Is Yourself
    Oh, and she also has a 2-hour recorded mini-retreat specifically on self-compassion:
    Recorded Mini Retreats | BreakAwake by Nicole Sachs

    For the record, in my experience, somatic tracking ain't gonna do it (it works temporarily, and is particularly useful for someone who has recovered and has honest and vulnerable self-reflection skills for temporary flares).
    Random and inconsistent meditation ain't gonna do it (I believe that it can bring significant relief if you're willing to devote yourself to achieving a lengthy and deep practice every single day)(personally, I'd rather journal!)

    That's a lot - sorry! Too much to absorb at once. Take it one step at a time, as we we say around here.

    ~Jan
     
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  18. diletant

    diletant Newcomer

    @JanAtheCPA
    Thanks, I will check out those resources. Hopefully will find some answers there!

    Also, thank you for sharing your story, as it gives me hope that it’s not too late for me to absorb this. I’m a few years older than you were when you started your TMS journey, so nice to learn that change is possible even now.
     
  19. feduccini

    feduccini Well known member

    Wait, what????
    Which episode is that? :woot:
     
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  20. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

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