Hi all I'm not new to TMS and had success in some of my other endeavors with it. I had some leg pain and went to PT which helped but seemed to disappear suddenly for two months, so I stopped. Now it came back and it seems to move around. I'm convinced it's TMS and I'm forcing myself not only to walk without limping, I actually started running on it although it was pretty painful! I just started getting angry at my subconscious, and told it to "Bug Off"! you will not control me, and "your hurting yourself" ! It only got worse after pushing myself. I'm wonder how long I will have to endure the pain till it stops? I know everyone is different, but is there a ball park figure for the average person? TIA
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Don't shoot the messenger, but the short answer is 'no', I'm afraid. And many people have found that the more you're 'on the hurry up' to lose symptoms, the longer it can take... Pushing = pressure, and that can ramp up an already hypervigilant brain and nervous system.
Some people can push themselves and their brain responds by lessening symptoms (e.g. Steve Ozanich did this and writes about it in his book The Great Pain Deception, but he no longer recommends that approach). With others, like myself, we need to take things in baby steps. I've gone from being bedridden (for a total of over 18 months) and housebound (for many years, because I came to mind/body work late) to functioning pretty normally by comparison by taking a baby steps approach. How I believe it works is that it kind of lets you 'fly under the radar' so as not to alarm the brain. Recovery is usually not linear either—there will more than likely be ups and downs with the symptoms and it can seem that doing mind-body/TMS work isn't working. However, it is actually working in the background on your brain. When symptoms flare or new ones appear, it's just the brain saying... "Are you sure it's safe and there's no danger?" Hang in there—your brain is adapting, even on tough days
Ellen
Beloved Grand Eagle
No. There is no average person with TMS. It's a MindBody problem, and our minds are all very different and incredibly complex.
I haven't heard many people discuss having success with just using the techniques of pushing through and talking to your subconscious. They are valid techniques and work for some people some of the time, but most of us need to do a deep dive into our psychological issues. There are many TMS Recovery Programs that are designed for this. Have you tried any of them? I recommend going this route.
HealingMe
Beloved Grand Eagle
I wish there was a ball park figure but unfortunately that’s not the case.
Symptoms will either disappear or calm down when your mind calms down. It’s just a natural a fear response (adrenaline). Focus on calming your mind. Increase feel good activities and joy in every day life. Learn to not monitor your symptoms as it keeps the cycle and symptoms in a loop.
Symptoms will either disappear or calm down when your mind calms down. It’s just a natural a fear response (adrenaline). Focus on calming your mind. Increase feel good activities and joy in every day life. Learn to not monitor your symptoms as it keeps the cycle and symptoms in a loop.
Thank you all for your responses! "Bloodmoon", your post helped me understand that I shouldn't be pushing myself so hard. I guess baby steps for me means just trying to walk normally without limping, and saying to myself that no harm will come if you have some pain while walking, somewhat ignoring the pain. "Ellen" I never did any of the recovery programs. Last time I had a bout with Sciatica, (this is not the same pain) and I read one of Dr. Sarno's books and I listened to his speeches on the subject. At that time It hurt me terribly for the first few steps I took, But I was determined to "win" and it eventually subsided, and that's why this time I thought I would do the same. But I haven't done any official programs, other than what I mentioned earlier. Thank you "HealingMe" for your suggestions. I will try to incorporate all of your suggestion and I appreciate the feedback!
Jake
Jake
Mani
Well known member
When you want to learn something new, dont ask’ how fast can i do this?’ but ‘how can i learn this well?’
I’m sorry to say but trying to speed through this is the wrong attitude.
Odds are its gonna take a shit ton of work and come back when you least expect it to. Better to actually learn how it works so you’ll know how to respond when it comes back.
Oh yeah lol and most of us are still in the gutter. Gutter being a figure of speech as your entire perspective changes when you start embracing this.
This comes across as mr knowitall but im actually a pretty amicable guy
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TG957
Beloved Grand Eagle
When I started on my TMS recovery, I thought it would be 3 months. It took me 2 years, but I have no regrets, it was an incredible time of self-discovery and personal achievement. If you stop worrying about the timeline and take it as a self-discovery, you will succeed faster.
Adam Coloretti (coach)
Well known member
Exactly - you get so much more out of it than healing symptoms - even though that is what everyone is clearly after
JanAtheCPA
Beloved Grand Eagle
Ours is the Structured Educational Program on the main TMSWiki.org. It's free of cost, ads, and even registration. You have nothing to lose and everything to win but you MUST pay attention to the introductory information, especially about doing it mindfully and with commitment, giving it time to sink in. Those who rush through it (and many try to do so) are ultimately disappointed.
Recognition is a good start! So is telling it to "bug off."
The only challenge is that sometimes it's there for a reason so if you tell it to bug off, it will pop up somewhere else.
Sometimes the pain isn't just to distract you and stop you from doing something, it's also to distract you from those pesky emotions deep down.
Scared little buggah....afraid to have those emotions because, well, we're good people (!) people like us (!) we are the good boy (!).
Once you let yourself be the human who sometimes gets angry even over dumb childish stuff then there is no need for those bad boy emotions to have to hide behind pain.
The program Jan mentioned is a great way to get to that place if you need a little helping getting into your subconscious closet where all this stuff resides.
Good luck!
Adam Coloretti (coach)
Well known member
Spot on - if it is a message then it's only going to try and get your attention again if you don't listen.