Ok, I've covered most of this in my introduction, but I'm about a month and half into learning about TMS. The first program I tried was Zero Pain Now by Adam Heller which is entirely based off of Dr. Sarno's books. It's meant to be a streamlined process, but I ended up returning the program because you only get a 20 day guarantee on it and I hadn't seen results yet. I decided it would be better to go straight to the source and started reading Healing Back Pain and of course that lead me here. It's astonishing how much sense TMS makes. I have tried everything, like I'm sure most of you have, including 4 examinations by chiro, PCP and 2 "spine specialists" who all believe the pain is from disc degeneration and herniation. Intellectually, I know otherwise, but my subconscious hasn't quite got it yet apparently.