(repeating the info from your other post, followed by a list of other resources:
Hi
@bagofwater - the most complete discussion of this outfit is on a different thread, and the bottom line is that in spite of supposedly being invited (by their only true advocate who we knew was a real member) to explain themselves, they never did. Forest (founder of tmswiki.org) was fully aware of the situation, but in the end, they just quietly disappeared.
The comprehensive thread, with opinions rendered by a numbmer of senior members, is here:
Possibly not genuine:My Rheumatoid Arthritis is completely cleared up. | Page 2 | TMS Forum (The Mindbody Syndrome) (tmswiki.org) I recommend that you read the entire thread, then see how you feel about them.
The problem with the SEP - or any free program, is that you get what you pay for, which is that you are on your own to stay on track, and to do the work with commitment and brutal self-honesty. So perhaps you do need a coach - or a structure that demands commitment.
The SEP was put together by Forest and other volunteers more than 10 years ago and has not been substantially updated. Attempts have been made to fix broken links, but some of the resources have completely disappeared from the internet, which would require finding a replacement. Did I mention "volunteers"?
Alan's Pain Recovery Program, on the other hand, was gifted to the forum by Alan Gordon, LCSW and owner/founder of the Pain Psychology Center, and it was professionally created by him. It also has a focus and path which is different from the SEP. If you never tried that, check it out.
Drs. Schubiner and Schecter both have workbooks.
An affordable program is Curable - professionally updated and curated, with many additional resources like interviews and meditations, and group experiences for additional costs or upgrades. The introductory version is free to try.
The above resources are, however, 100% self-directed, just like the SEP.
Nicole Sachs has what is technically a self-directed program (online or downloadable, maybe both?) which includes ongoing membership in her private Facebook group, so maybe there is more incentive to be accountable? In addition to her book, she also has a podcast (started in 2018, I think) which is incredible - I've lost track of it recently, but just start with the very first episode. She also runs online and in-person conferences.
Alan Gordon's Pain Psychology Center has TMS therapists and coaches via online sessions, and offers sliding scale fees. Be aware that a licensed therapist/LCSW in one state will probably have to legally call themselves a "coach" if you are in another state - but the education, training, and ethics code are still in place.
There are also a number of non-credentialed coaches who have proven their TMS bona-fides by participating in discussions, answering questions, and providing substantive advice here on the forum. Unfortunately we don't have a comprehensive list, and I am not going to attempt to list them from memory, so you pretty much have to come across them when they post. Or they are free to respond here (and if you don't recognize someone who responds, make sure they are genuine participating members of the forum by checking their posting history on their profiles, because we don't allow outright marketing).
Good luck,
~Jan
