I am inspired by this reading and posts. I danced DANCED last night with my husband and my sciatic pain. It was not painful at all. It was there, but not there. I am working hard with TMS Structured Ed Program and I know that TMS is what I have. I know this. I am still working through accepting it 100% but I know it in my head. I am so, so thankful for this program and support. I am finding that things are falling into place is such a peaceful way as I work through this program, and I have really been hyper aware of my FEELINGS which I have been expressing on the spot, rather than bottleing (sp?) them up and stewing in them. I can just say out loud "this is how what you did/said makes me feel" and move on with no hurt, regret, anger. I thank this program and the support network for this GIFT.
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Fear of Walking
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Rainbowdash
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I was going through a very stressful time this time last year and I processed it by walking. Beginning of this year, I started having foot pain and I reduced walking completely. Now, if I walk my feet hurt quite a lot. Today, I took my daughter and walked for a long time, shopping. My bursitis of right foot, which was cured with SEP program came back with a vengence on both feet, but for the first time in my life, my knees are burning too and my whole legs are hurting. This is so good. I'm so happy everything is hurting, which means it is TMS and not a small inflammation in my foot (which may or may not be cured, according to a specialist). I'll continue walking until the pain disappears. It's either me or the pain now. Bring it on!!!
GShaw
Peer Supporter
Hi,
I realize it has been a couple of years since anyone has added to this post but I thought I would share my story.
I am able to also relate completely to back pain and sciatica related pain. I have suffered with chronic related back pain for probably 15 plus years. The first few years the pain rarely interfered with my daily life. During those years I had a health plan and would see a chiropractor when needed. Starting in about 2010 my shin pain started to bother me more depending on the activity.
This was also the year of my first of many events to occur in my life. In 2010 my father passed away from cancer. Then in 2013 I was 'let go' of my job of almost 20 years and at the same time asked to move from where I was living. While my pain started to increase I was still able to live a very respectable quality of life. Then, in April 2016 things changed completely, my mother passed away also of cancer. My shin pain got so severe that I needed a cane or office chair to get around my apartment. This created a real challenge for me to get out and see my mother before she passed away.
The next 3 years were hit and miss for me! My life was now being controlled by my pain. While I needed employment I was concerned I wouldn't be able to handle a job due to my shin pain. I began my search online for options to help deal with my pain. While I found a few options which offered me some relieve, in the majority of cases I still found myself in pain within a few minutes of walking.
My life changed for the better in October 2018 when I began to read about Dr. Sarno which lead me to Alan Gordon's New Recovery Program. I feel so blessed to have found this program. I am also very grateful to Alan for putting together this program. The fact it is free makes me feel like Alan really does care about helping people!
Thank you Alan Gordon for everything you're doing to help people with Chronic Pain!
In October 2018 I began Alan Gordon's program and today I am able to walk for hours at a time with little to no pain. The other wonderful thing about this program, it has helped me deal with other aspects of my life. In most cases I now have the necessary tools to help me deal with future chronic pain.
I am doing anything I can to help promote TMS and would love to one day practice TMS here in Canada because I don't know if this is popular in Canada.
Another part of my life journey moving forward is creating an online business offer people a variety of solutions in dealing with life challenges. If anyone would like to contact me then please do not hesitate.
Thank you,
Greg
I realize it has been a couple of years since anyone has added to this post but I thought I would share my story.
I am able to also relate completely to back pain and sciatica related pain. I have suffered with chronic related back pain for probably 15 plus years. The first few years the pain rarely interfered with my daily life. During those years I had a health plan and would see a chiropractor when needed. Starting in about 2010 my shin pain started to bother me more depending on the activity.
This was also the year of my first of many events to occur in my life. In 2010 my father passed away from cancer. Then in 2013 I was 'let go' of my job of almost 20 years and at the same time asked to move from where I was living. While my pain started to increase I was still able to live a very respectable quality of life. Then, in April 2016 things changed completely, my mother passed away also of cancer. My shin pain got so severe that I needed a cane or office chair to get around my apartment. This created a real challenge for me to get out and see my mother before she passed away.
The next 3 years were hit and miss for me! My life was now being controlled by my pain. While I needed employment I was concerned I wouldn't be able to handle a job due to my shin pain. I began my search online for options to help deal with my pain. While I found a few options which offered me some relieve, in the majority of cases I still found myself in pain within a few minutes of walking.
My life changed for the better in October 2018 when I began to read about Dr. Sarno which lead me to Alan Gordon's New Recovery Program. I feel so blessed to have found this program. I am also very grateful to Alan for putting together this program. The fact it is free makes me feel like Alan really does care about helping people!
Thank you Alan Gordon for everything you're doing to help people with Chronic Pain!
In October 2018 I began Alan Gordon's program and today I am able to walk for hours at a time with little to no pain. The other wonderful thing about this program, it has helped me deal with other aspects of my life. In most cases I now have the necessary tools to help me deal with future chronic pain.
I am doing anything I can to help promote TMS and would love to one day practice TMS here in Canada because I don't know if this is popular in Canada.
Another part of my life journey moving forward is creating an online business offer people a variety of solutions in dealing with life challenges. If anyone would like to contact me then please do not hesitate.
Thank you,
Greg
sciencelover
New Member
Responding to TMS-er: Regarding walking: My TMS was/is different from sciatica. I had back pain for maybe 25 years. Cured by Sarno's healing back pain book, which I studied every day for six weeks. When I had mild back pain, walking was one of the things that made my back feel better. (With severe pain I had to lie down.) So there is nothing inherently wrong with walking.
Regarding the question of how much to "test" a painful action: I don't know. But my choice is to test in moderation. I have never challenged an extreme pain. I once had what I thought was TMS pain in both knees. It hurt a bit when I jogged. I decided to continue jogging. After jogging a while, the pain went away. I currently have pain in my left forearm that I think is TMS. Depending on what I do, it can hurt a lot--a scary kind of pain. I can carry a light weight with my left arm and do so, even if I feel a little pain. But I don't carry a heavy weight, if I feel medium or higher pain. So I use my left arm, but try to avoid weights and motions that cause extreme pain. I just did three push ups with it, so I do challenge the pain! It did not hurt. But for now I will not try some of the twisting motions that have severely hurt in the past.
Regarding the question of how much to "test" a painful action: I don't know. But my choice is to test in moderation. I have never challenged an extreme pain. I once had what I thought was TMS pain in both knees. It hurt a bit when I jogged. I decided to continue jogging. After jogging a while, the pain went away. I currently have pain in my left forearm that I think is TMS. Depending on what I do, it can hurt a lot--a scary kind of pain. I can carry a light weight with my left arm and do so, even if I feel a little pain. But I don't carry a heavy weight, if I feel medium or higher pain. So I use my left arm, but try to avoid weights and motions that cause extreme pain. I just did three push ups with it, so I do challenge the pain! It did not hurt. But for now I will not try some of the twisting motions that have severely hurt in the past.
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ChronicVince
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After reading the first posts of this thread, and the @hecate105 ' story, I cried a bit (very rare for me), and then slept almost 2h, then went out for running 25 minutes without my orthopedic insoles. And it feels pretty nice ! Thinking about and applying the principle of @hecate105
That just works. And is almost unbelievable !
Maybe this trick helped me : I called a family member during the begin of my run.
That just works. And is almost unbelievable !
GShaw
Peer Supporter
Hello,
It has been a few years since my last post on these forums. In the past last few years I have done a lot of personal development that has included understanding the power of the mind. In August 2020 I also invested in an online course called "Mind Power". This is truly a powerful course that has helped me understand further my life, and how my mind has impacted my past.
The goal of this "Mind Power" course is to teach us how to retrain our mind. People often say, "think positive" but in reality it is more about thinking differently.
These forums we talk about TMS but in my research what I have discovered is TMS and "Health Anxiety" are so similar. I have also discovered that TMS is very much connected to anxiety.
I wanted to mention this because I believe too many people worldwide suffer with some level of anxiety. I also believe in many cases we don't realize it because it is impacting our unconscious mind.
The road to recovery isn't easy but it really is possible. I believe the key is to work daily on reprogramming your mind to believe differently. I also believe it is important that we deal with our past and eliminate any potential unresolved emotions. We might not realize it but I do believe far too many of us do have unresolved emotions that impact our unconscious minds.
My journey to personal development has also led me in the direction to believing there is a very strong connection between our mind and most diseases including heart disease and cancer. I do believe taking care of past emotions can help protect us from far too many diseases.
Another aspect of life I believe is important to deal with is our anxiety. I am extremely grateful to Alan Gordon for all of his work with TMS but recently I also came across some amazing products online to deal with anxiety.
Just remember your mind is extremely powerful and has abilities far beyond what I am sure you can imagine.
Never give up!
It has been a few years since my last post on these forums. In the past last few years I have done a lot of personal development that has included understanding the power of the mind. In August 2020 I also invested in an online course called "Mind Power". This is truly a powerful course that has helped me understand further my life, and how my mind has impacted my past.
The goal of this "Mind Power" course is to teach us how to retrain our mind. People often say, "think positive" but in reality it is more about thinking differently.
These forums we talk about TMS but in my research what I have discovered is TMS and "Health Anxiety" are so similar. I have also discovered that TMS is very much connected to anxiety.
I wanted to mention this because I believe too many people worldwide suffer with some level of anxiety. I also believe in many cases we don't realize it because it is impacting our unconscious mind.
The road to recovery isn't easy but it really is possible. I believe the key is to work daily on reprogramming your mind to believe differently. I also believe it is important that we deal with our past and eliminate any potential unresolved emotions. We might not realize it but I do believe far too many of us do have unresolved emotions that impact our unconscious minds.
My journey to personal development has also led me in the direction to believing there is a very strong connection between our mind and most diseases including heart disease and cancer. I do believe taking care of past emotions can help protect us from far too many diseases.
Another aspect of life I believe is important to deal with is our anxiety. I am extremely grateful to Alan Gordon for all of his work with TMS but recently I also came across some amazing products online to deal with anxiety.
Just remember your mind is extremely powerful and has abilities far beyond what I am sure you can imagine.
Never give up!
JanAtheCPA
Beloved Grand Eagle
Welcome back @GShaw, it's excellent to hear of your growth and success! I don't know anything about the program you mentioned, but I'm 100% on board with every other thing you mentioned. I could re-quote everything, in fact, but I'll limit it to this:
And, of course: Never give up, for sure.
And, of course: Never give up, for sure.
Volcano1963
Peer Supporter
Hi @Ella1234 , i came upon your unanswered post as a result of the SEP Day 19 prompt to check out this thread. Did your limp go away?
I’ve been reflecting on whether there is a difference between the sciatica pain i used to get (before starting the TMS wiki SEP) and the pain i now get when i get out of bed or unfold my knees after sitting cross-legged for some time. I wonder if this current pain is also psychological or if there is a type of old-age pain that isn’t psychological. I am 72 and not as active as i used to be. Happily, even with this “old-age pain” i am increasing my activity level now that I am free from my sciatica pain. When I lean into the possibility that my “old-age pain” is psychological I wonder if it has to do with an existential fear of dying and therefore the pain is a reminder or awakening bell to look at this fear. The pain goes away after a little while so it doesn’t delay my walking activity very much, but i still wonder if doing some work to look at the fear would result in not having the joint pain upon unfolding my legs or getting out of bed in the morning. It would be so amazing to be “old-age” pain-free.
I’ve been reflecting on whether there is a difference between the sciatica pain i used to get (before starting the TMS wiki SEP) and the pain i now get when i get out of bed or unfold my knees after sitting cross-legged for some time. I wonder if this current pain is also psychological or if there is a type of old-age pain that isn’t psychological. I am 72 and not as active as i used to be. Happily, even with this “old-age pain” i am increasing my activity level now that I am free from my sciatica pain. When I lean into the possibility that my “old-age pain” is psychological I wonder if it has to do with an existential fear of dying and therefore the pain is a reminder or awakening bell to look at this fear. The pain goes away after a little while so it doesn’t delay my walking activity very much, but i still wonder if doing some work to look at the fear would result in not having the joint pain upon unfolding my legs or getting out of bed in the morning. It would be so amazing to be “old-age” pain-free.
JanAtheCPA
Beloved Grand Eagle
At 75, I've decided that I may never be able to answer this question. I use my TMS toolkit to quickly banish symptoms as I've been doing since 2011 (even RA flares don't last long, well under 24 hours) and I try to get on with my life. But I've also noticed that I do get tired more quickly the last few years, with more stiffness, and more achiness after strenuous household chores. That could also be psychological - chores seem like a waste of time when time is running out.
This one I can say with 100% certainty is what triggered my TMS crisis and cascade of symptoms in 2011, the year I turned 60. Doing the work (the SEP) turned me around, but there's something about hitting 70 that feels frustratingly different. My equally active friends are saying the same. Of course, severe world existential dysfunction is concurrent with us all reaching our 70s, which does not help one bit.
I basically start by treating everything as TMS, but I also don't intend to ignore any obvious warning signs that need to be treated seriously at any age, but are more likely to be serious after a certain age - or more likely to become serious if not dealt with sooner rather than later.
That is all.
