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exploring negative thoughts

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by steve1, Aug 12, 2015.

  1. steve1

    steve1 Newcomer

    hi new here

    i managed pain ok it reduced alot but anxiety picked up . As alot of thoughts that are making me anxious are kind of nonsense my wife suggested cbt might help but - if it is a distraction technique as in how pain was meant to scare me / distract me etc wont exploring thoughts no matter how distorted just be feeding into this tms trick?

    Steve
     
  2. Steve Ozanich

    Steve Ozanich TMS Consultant

    Hey I'm Steve #1 you can't be too. How about you being Steve the next 1? Or Steve 2 - 1?

    Dr. Sarno said that CBT was "singularly ineffective" in stopping TMS. I asked him about the reason and he said that it didn't address the mental and physical process together. But he also used the word "singularly" in HBP as in "amazingly."

    The answer to your question is "yes" you must explore the negative thoughts. By ignoring them thus far you've given yourself the problem, the physical symptoms. It's by avoiding them that you've been diverted to body.

    Ok, you can be Steve1, I'll be Steve0
     
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  3. clairem

    clairem Peer Supporter

    Hello this caught my eye and has freaked me out somewhat as I am just beginning cbt with a tms therapist .

    tres confused

    Perhaps a therapist could help with this thread ?
     
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  4. Walt Oleksy

    Walt Oleksy Beloved Grand Eagle

    I was my own TMS therapist, after reading Sarno and SteveO. I decided to believe in TMS and explored negative thoughts I journaled in
    in the Structured Educational Program and came to discover more about my repressed emotions going back to my childhood than I ever realized. I had kept myself so busy with a writing career that I shut all that stuff out of my mind. Then it all came back to haunt me with back pain. Journaling, I explored those repressed emotions and put them finally to rest, but first I discovered and felt them.

    b
     
  5. Walt Oleksy

    Walt Oleksy Beloved Grand Eagle

    I started to say that working with a TMS therapist is a great thing to do. I just didn't even know they existed when I began learning about TMS three years ago.
     
  6. David88

    David88 Well known member

    Clairem, if your therapist claims to be a TMS specialist, and is doing cognitive-behavioral therapy with you, you need to start asking some questions. It doesn't jibe. The treatment recommended by Sarno is short-term psychodynamic psychotherapy, which is very different from CBT.

    Read the chapter on treatment in Sarno's The Divided Mind, especially the section on psychotherapy by Arlene Feinblatt, beginning on p. 150.

    My therapist was trained by Feinblatt in STPDP, which helped me enormously. I've also done CBT, and found it worse than useless.

    Proceed with caution!
     
  7. Grateful17

    Grateful17 Well known member

    Steve-O............YOU CRACK ME UP. We need to laugh more. Enjoy life more.
    If you could bottle your humor, I'd get in line to buy some. LOL.
     
  8. Grateful17

    Grateful17 Well known member

    I would think that CBT would be helpful. Sarno said it would not help TMS singularly, but in conjunction with other techniques, can help and it allows us to get our thoughts under control.
     
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