Oh, I meant to address that. My pelvic pain is not the result of trauma or accident. It happened out of the blue one day. I believe the trigger point and stretches helped as I see the pelvic pain as being 75% cured. However, in those books there are many cases of pelvic pain that began by an inciting incident, such as trauma sitting in an uncomfortable position for a long time, etc. I'm beginning to see my pelvic pain as TMS, but that doesn't mean it is in your case. I'd get those books as your next step to recovery. As Bruce suggests, you may very well have TMS, but it may be a good idea to seek out the books and the treatments for CPPS I mentioned. That way, you have ruled something else out. And if it works, awesome!