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New Program Day 21: Paving Your Own Path

Alan, thank you for making this available here. It truly has been eye-opening to get your insight into the big picture. My one suggestion would be to add or link to more information on how somatic tracking actually works. For those of us who are abuse victims, we are often disconnected from our bodies in very fundamental ways. As I struggle with the concept of somatic tracking, I feel that it is a useful tool already, but I feel a little like I'm feeling my way in the dark. A brief amount of insight into HOW to achieve that kind of awareness would be very helpful.

Best wishes!
 
Fabulous programme, thank you Alan and only another Brit could draw on the Cardiff Diva :) It seems not only Dame Shirley but that famous Brit Winnie has infiltrated the US psyche.

My first book was 'When we were very young' by AAMilne and I can remember every verse a half century on.

Note to self pay more attention to the blessings that seeped under your skin than the pain that tries to take its place.

Thank you all xx
 
In another thread, there seemed to a lot of interest in an outline of the program:
I find Alan's approach answers a lot of these questions while working in parallel with sarnos work. And without all the jargon, it's basically :
  • Fear keeps pain going
  • Check in with your body
  • Re align your thoughts
Hi robodelfy, If I were to ask you to add a few bulleted points on what to do regarding each line you wrote, what would you suggest? I have added some tools that I felt would fit well to each line.
  • Fear keeps pain going
  • Check in with your body - somatic tracking, feel your feelings, mindful meditation,
  • Re align your thoughts - cognitive soothing, empowering thoughts, overcome uncertainty, stop destructive thoughts, stand up to the bully, outcome independent thoughts
Nice summary. I was thinking of making an outline of the program, and this is what I had in mind, at least as a "30,000 foot view." Perhaps, as shmps suggested, we can fill it in a bit.
Oh yes. I like this idea.
@robodelfy @shmps @plum @Ellen @James59 @Laleah Shoo Shoo @nele @Lunarlass66 @nele and others...

Perhaps we could crowdsource a summary?

Basically, just like shmps dove in and added detail to the outline, perhaps we could collaboratively enrich it even further.

I'd be glad to help out some, though I'll need help if we want it to be good.

I added it to a document that anyone can edit. Just click and type. Please, edit with abandon! Make any changes that you think might help. Be bold!

http://go.tmswiki.org/summary (Psychogenic Pain Recovery Program Summary)

I linkified some of @shmps ' tools to make it easier to start us off.
 
Thanks so much Alan, and Forest, Christie (and Paul for his drawings) for this amazing programme! It's really kind of you all to give your time to help all of us who are suffering. I thought it was all really clearly laid out and informative. I think the only one I didn't quite understand was how to do cognitive soothing - maybe more examples here would be good. But everything else was really well-explained and easy to understand. Some really interesting ideas in there, much food for thought. It will take me a while to process it all, and go over the material again. Thanks also to all of you who posted some amazing insights - I have copied some of these down, to read over again and again. I will miss this daily programme!
 
Thanks so so so much Alan and team for your time and support!!!

Just knowing that someone is putting efforts without expecting any gains from it, makes it so compassionate and truthful. It motivates you to believe in them, that they care for you :)

So many tools to chose, and it took me almost two years of work to finally be able to pin point the source of my symptoms. The moment I have a situation in life where my mind is racing with thoughts (fear, worry, pressure, future uncertainty, catastrophization), extreme thoughts from one to another to another to anotehr to another, where focusing on what you are doing in the moment is no longer joyous whether its typing email, talking on phone, watching tv, eating food, even just staring at something.. BOOM thats when pain comes. So now i know the landscape of the problem, just need the right tool. I am not scared or worried about the pain. The moment my mind goes crazy, it throws me off and I have pain. When my mind is calm my pain is calm. WHICH TOOL ?? Any suggestions folks :)
 
Thank you all for this opportunity. As I always tell my language students, I believe this programme is like peeling an onion, or growing layers in one, one by one, with a lot of attention (not tension) and mindfully attending with loving-kindness to each step we take.
 
Lovely to be in touch with so many of you throughout the past three weeks, and I'm so happy Alan's hard work resonated with this group. He crafted this program with a lot of thought and care, and I think you all felt that. Of course a big thank you Forest for your continued and tireless work to help this wonderful community. And lastly, a special thank you to my sweet husband Paul for his drawings - your creativity added so much life to the posts. Best wishes to all for continued healing, please know I am here as a resource if ever I can be of help.
 
Lovely to be in touch with so many of you throughout the past three weeks, and I'm so happy Alan's hard work resonated with this group. He crafted this program with a lot of thought and care, and I think you all felt that. Of course a big thank you Forest for your continued and tireless work to help this wonderful community. And lastly, a special thank you to my sweet husband Paul for his drawings - your creativity added so much life to the posts. Best wishes to all for continued healing, please know I am here as a resource if ever I can be of help.

Thank you Christie for all of your posts. Your input has been invaluable. By sharing your experiences, both the struggles and your successes, you clarified and illustrated many of the concepts, making them easier for me to understand. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this program. It would not have been the same without your perspective. Thank you!
Katia
 
Many thanks Alan,
Forest, and all helpers for this wonderful program. The timing was great for me; I head back to school in a week--even though kids don't come for three weeks.

The jam experiment Alan mentions reminds me of the book The Paradox of Choice. The premise is that the more choices we have, the more difficult things become. That's why it's easier to offer a toddler--or anyone--just two options!
 
Thanks, Alan, for providing such simple guidelines to follow, and to Christie for providing some added depth when needed, and to Forest for organizing the whole shebang.

I'm glad I don't have to try it all. For now the somatic tracking, cognitive soothing (which took me a little while to figure out), and the breathing exercise (I can't remember just now what it was called) seem to be the most practical approaches for me right now. Maybe I'll add some of the other things into the mix later.
 
Heya, folks,

As usual, I'm in a rush, ;) but for those who aren't on the notification list, but read the threads....
I thought I'd share today's notification email:

Hi everyone,

What a thrilling program! It has been tremendously gratifying to see the outpouring of excitement in the comments on the site.

As you may remember, today is the last scheduled day of the program. Far more important, though is that it is also the beginning of how you learn to apply the program in your own life.

Let's maintain the tremendous momentum that we have built up. Let's work together and learn from each other as we apply what we have learned to our own lives.

First, let's all work on the exercise from this last post over the next few days (i.e. going through the other day's threads). We can ask questions of each other in the threads when we are unsure of something. Let's keep the discussions going!

Second, for those who have signed up for the forum, let's use the thread for the last day to keep in touch. You can use the "Watch this thread" link in the upper left to be notified the first time someone posts a thread since your last login.

Finally, I think that self-awareness is the foundation any plan of self-care. Sometime next week, I'll send out an email with a link to a thread with a self-assessment exercise I'll make that will help us figure out where we are in the process.


If you need help joining the forum or want to be removed from this list, just reply to this email and let me know.

With that out of the way....
1f600


On the last day of the program, Alan discusses how to use this program in the most efficient way, and how to avoid getting overwhelmed by too much information.

Click here to read Day 22, Moving Forward

Best,
Forest​

I hope you will join me and the rest of the group as we learn together how to apply everything we've learned!
I've appreciated this program and especially the explicit permission to choose what seems right to me of all the things to focus on. Helps with my perfectionism!
 
Just saying thank you doesnt seem to be enough to convey my gratitude, But, from the bottom of my heart Thank you to Dr.Schubiner for telling me about this 21 Day Program, Thank you to Alan for writing and organizing this Program, Thank you to Paul for his artistic drawings as they say pictures are worth worth a thousand words, Thank you to Forest for assisting in this program and sending out all of the mail notifications, and Thank you to Alan, Christie, and Forest for tirelessly reading and attending to all of our questions and concerns, and Thank you to all the participants for all of your support, comfort, compassion, encouragement, and advice!! It is wonderful to be with people who share similar struggles and to be guided by those who have overcome these same struggles is very empowering! Yes, I could definitely feel the empathy and compassion that Alan, Christie, Forest and Dr. Schubiner have for people they have never met. As I can only imagine how many hours it takes to create such a program as this and then to read and respond to so many posts with such compassion, insight and dedication. Yes, I will be definitely rereading these 21 lessons and practicing them all. God Bless You all and May you all be free from suffering, may you all be happy and healthy!!!! THANK YOU!!!:)
 
Two psychologists out of Columbia University conducted a unique experiment on the topic of choice. They set up a display table at a grocery store with 6 different types of jam. Over a hundred people stopped by for a sample. 31% of them decided to buy a jar.

The next day, the same display table was set up, but this time with 24 types of jam. Even more people stopped by for a sample than the day before…but guess how many of them ended up making a purchase? 4%

More isn’t always better. Sometimes when we’re offered too many choices it can increase our anxiety.

Over the past three weeks, we’ve covered a lot of different topics: pain, fear, safety, empowerment, cognitive soothing, somatic tracking, systematic desensitization, conditioned responses, overcoming repression, and embracing joy.

As comprehensive as the program is, it may leave you with the following question:

“Where do I start?”

Now that you’re familiar with the layout of the program, it can be helpful to skim through it a second time.

As you review the different topics, see what speaks to you: Do you prefer communicating messages of safety, or taking a strong stance of empowerment? Are you more interested in leaning in to emotions, or tackling conditioned responses?

You don’t need to do everything. This is an overview of different paths to recovery, and you can choose the parts that resonate with you.

Above all, have patience. It can take time to develop neural pathways, but trust in your capacity for change. Like Winnie the Pooh said, “Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there some day.”


The study Alan has referred to is indeed a classic I am familiar with;
https://faculty.washington.edu/jdb/345/345 Articles/Iyengar & Lepper (2000).pdf

This controversial study has been replicated many times since then.


Done close to 20 years ago, it spurred many advances in consumer psychology and it has effected the ways in which we are all lured into purchasing products of all kinds. It is an example of consumerism psychology.

That it works when we go to the store to buy groceries, phones, stereo equipment etc. is a given. Why it works is perhaps an even more interesting story.

The heuristics involved in creating the mental shortcuts we all use daily in out everyday life are essential to our functioning in our society. Because they govern automatic and intuitive processes in judgement and decision making they work well when determining everyday decisions. It is also well known that these rules can lead us astray when it comes to rational decision making, figuring probabilities, as well as perceiving logical circumstances. This is known as cognitive biases.

One of the many reasons why it can cause anxiety especially in a person with a perfectionist personality, is that with many more choices comes the increased possibility of making the wrong choice or decision. However, this is not always an accurate perception. An understanding of this goes a long way to mitigate its effects on anxiety.

The "gamblers fallacy" is a good example of this. I am sure you know people like this or have even experienced the same sort of logic yourself, I know I have. That is, if you lose for a long time, the odds of you winning get greater. But reality is, even if you have flipped a coin 10,000 times and each time it came up heads, the odds are still 50/50 that it will come up tails on the 10,001st toss!

There is a large body of study on decision making and why we make the decisions we make. However, to infer that good decision making in this particular instance should be based on if something "resonates" with you is not something I am familiar with that has been proven to be true. I say that because of the scientific nature of medicine, science and psychology of the subject. In some instances it might apply, like purchasing a home, or choosing something to wear, or picking a painting. But in this case where there are so many other factors that effect ones decision making processes in making important, life changing decisions it surprises me that they go without mention.

The greater majority of people who contribute to this site seem very intelligent and would surely benefit from understanding the many factors that can effect decision making. Not including them is a missed opportunity IMHO.

Explaining something in simplistic childish terms to an audience who is articulating a need for greater understanding only goes to enhance their acceptance of limited choices as one might do to a child when too many choices can lead to frustration for them. From what I have seen and read virtually everyone on this site has the capacity, curiosity, tenacity and intelligence for more then that.

Of the many hats that Herbert Simon [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_A._Simon (Herbert A. Simon - Wikipedia) ] wore, one of those was as a cognitive scientist. He coined the term "bounded rationality" being that decision making can be bound by time limitations, depth and breath of knowledge, and cognitive limitations.

The use of catering to resonance ie. emotions and feelings, is well known to politicians, lawyers, salesmen and influence peddlers of all stripes. Many fall prey to its charms. I could go on, but I will leave you with a bit of my own Pooh knowledge; understanding that I am being hypocritical.

"When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it".
-- Pooh's Little Instruction Book, inspired by A. A. Milne
 
There is always more to learn, as we are so vast! I used to fear elements of my unconscious material. Afraid of how much pain it might throw me into.
These past few weeks have deepened my faith in this process and I feel more familiar and close to others who participated. We listened to one another. We related. As Pooh and Piglet always agreed, "it's so much friendlier with two."
We are not alone here. There are answers. For me the somatic tracking, pendulating to the breath and some tough love talk to my pain - and some reparenting - seem to be my go-to success stories.
I doubt I would have begun swimming ever again had this program not convinced me I was avoiding something I used to love.
Looking forward to the reviewing of the program with you all.
 

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This maybe off topic, but a good place to ask. Has anyone tried TRE - trauma release therapy to help with TMS symptoms ?
 
Heya, folks,

As usual, I'm in a rush, ;) but for those who aren't on the notification list, but read the threads....
I thought I'd share today's notification email:

Hi everyone,

What a thrilling program! It has been tremendously gratifying to see the outpouring of excitement in the comments on the site.

As you may remember, today is the last scheduled day of the program. Far more important, though is that it is also the beginning of how you learn to apply the program in your own life.

Let's maintain the tremendous momentum that we have built up. Let's work together and learn from each other as we apply what we have learned to our own lives.

First, let's all work on the exercise from this last post over the next few days (i.e. going through the other day's threads). We can ask questions of each other in the threads when we are unsure of something. Let's keep the discussions going!

Second, for those who have signed up for the forum, let's use the thread for the last day to keep in touch. You can use the "Watch this thread" link in the upper left to be notified the first time someone posts a thread since your last login.

Finally, I think that self-awareness is the foundation any plan of self-care. Sometime next week, I'll send out an email with a link to a thread with a self-assessment exercise I'll make that will help us figure out where we are in the process.


If you need help joining the forum or want to be removed from this list, just reply to this email and let me know.

With that out of the way....
1f600


On the last day of the program, Alan discusses how to use this program in the most efficient way, and how to avoid getting overwhelmed by too much information.

Click here to read Day 22, Moving Forward

Best,
Forest​

I hope you will join me and the rest of the group as we learn together how to apply everything we've learned!
 
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