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Chiropractic Adjustment & TMS

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by BruceMC, Mar 14, 2018.

  1. BruceMC

    BruceMC Beloved Grand Eagle

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but this chiropractic patient's 4 disk bulges/herniations don't seem to bother him as much as the tension in his muscles and tendons that are creating his posture and pain problems. You'll notice that the standard leg raise test doesn't seem to make him hurt:

    Seems to me is that he has internalized a bunch of tension in his muscles due to TMS. Now, the chiropractic adjustments return his posture to a more normal configuration. The laying on of hands, the warm, joking bedside manner and the air of confidence on the part of the chiropractor himself must elicit the placebo response on the part of the patient. What I don't see here is a follow up to show if the patient returns to his old painful posture a few days after these adjustments. Tennis Tom may have it right when he asserts that a good massage would do just as much as acupuncture or chiropractic sessions.

    IMHO, the patient is suffering from stress induced TMS symptoms. See what you think!

    Wonder what percentage of people who sleep on their sides DON'T have LBP? Is sleeping on your side a blanket catch all that chiros blame their patients' pain on?
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2018
  2. BruceMC

    BruceMC Beloved Grand Eagle

    And does anyone notice that 16 year old Abby is an extremely competitive softball player who besides being wicked cute is putting a great deal of pressure on herself as a shortstop?

    Not to say that the chiropractor's adjustments don't provide some temporary relief, but most of her aches and pains seem to be the result of her softball playing. Just look at her BP: 60/90! Nothing too physically wrong with this young lady.
  3. BruceMC

    BruceMC Beloved Grand Eagle

    Notice how at the very beginning of this video, how the chiro mentions that the young lady's sacroiliac pain, which has been recurring since 2016, came back shortly after the Houston floods. TMS knowledge would suggest that the floods were a life stress event that triggered this particular recurrence and send her running back to the chiro for an adjustment:

    You'll notice that this particular patient is not only Miss Houston, but Miss Texas as well. This chiro is a lucky dog no doubt!

    If you look at the whole series of chiropractic adjustments on YouTube you'll notice all kinds of other little hints about the true causes of these patients' pain symptoms I think. Take a look at the series and see what you think?
  4. andy64tms

    andy64tms Well known member

    Hi Bruce,

    The amount dollars that TT has spent on chiropractors, acupuncturist, masseurs and many other “off the wall specialists” is amazing, he could have brought a new Ferrari. I wonder if he harbors any anger because of this. I am interested in the psychology that makes each of us very different from each other in our views. Chiros are convincing, nice people, I went one time, he was my neighbor and immediately started talking about regular adjustments and setting up an account. Where is TT lately, I wonder what car he's driving?

    Last August I had hands on PT treatment however, that really helped my neck, basically stretching the muscle further than ever before. I do Yoga and considered this stretch way pass my max. This was my first ever having PT hands touch my body. The visit also had the effect of eliminating the fear associated that something was seriously wrong. Mindbody PT helped at the time.

    A windsurfing professional that I know had his body destroyed going to a chiro. His lung became disabled and in error he got treated for lung cancer. After the max dose of chemo he couldn’t walk three feet. SteveO’s faulty medicine no less. He couldn’t prove anything, but a new doctor asked him suspiciously: “Have you been to a chiropractor lately?’ He had.

    BP 60/90, are you sure? 90/60 is considered the lowest.
  5. BruceMC

    BruceMC Beloved Grand Eagle

    Listen to the chiro in the video. He may have had it backwards.

    I think a chiro adjustment or a PT session might "teach" your mind-body about a greater potential range of motion, which is good as far as TMS healing is concerned. But that doesn't really correct the underlying problem of muscle tension generated by the stress response in the brain. Hence, more and more PT and chiro sessions that cost more and more money when what you really gotta do buddy is "chill out"!

    What about all that advice the chiro gives about not sleeping on your side or sleeping on your back with your knees bent and raised up with a pillow? Do you think early homo sapiens slept that way? Seems like advice like that instills in the back pain patient the false belief that there's something physically or structurally wrong with him, thus intensifying and perpetuating the pain syndrome.
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