Here is my original post back in October 2018. https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/help-lower-back-pain.19604/ (Help - Lower back pain) I am still suffering with lower back pain. Here is a message i sent dr. schubiner recently I will take you back to the beginning. September 2017 i left my job on the evening as usual, i had developed an awful stomach that really had me worried. I had experienced similar once before in my teens (im now 40) and this resulted in testicular torsion. So you could see why i was worried/scared. I got no sleep that night due to pain so the next day i went to a walk in centre and was eventually told i had protastitis given cipro and sent on my way. I took cipro for 3 days (it was a ten day course). The pain left so stopped the drugs and went back to my life and didn't give it all a second thought work and life were very busy so it was easy to move on. Looking back i believe this was stress and anxiety caused by my job at the time. 6 months later my left arm started to twitch 24/7 which was annoying and worrying. I nearly had a nervous breakdown over the worry of a nasty neuro disease. All tests came back normal, so after 4 months of this annoying twitch i started to put it to the back of my mind. Research of the drug cipro had me worried and wondering if this was the cause of the twitch?! It eventully stopped after 15 months. Then the back pain came which for me a fit and athletic 40 year was something i had never experienced before. It is a constant in my lower back with sometimes sciatica down my leg on occasion which to this day (18 months and counting) has not resolved. All tests, mri’s etc show no damage. A perfect spine im told, no diagnosis has been given to me, doctors have no idea. Doctors have no clue what is causing the pain and aching. It is always lower back sometimes in the middle or on the sides(pain changes from aches to sharp pains to feeling like muscle strains to feeling tight and stiff, it moves around my lower back alot but no where else. Also i have sore spots on my spine which come and go like the bone is bruised and the odd joint may join the party for a day or two. It doesn't stop me doing anything or even sleeping (sleep very well no sign of pain when asleep). On a pain scale its a constant 4-5. I am very anxious and depressed over it. I have returned to the gym and it hasn't made it better or worse. I believe in tms and see it all around me. But i have one foot in the tms camp and one in damage by the cipro camp. I have read some nasty side effects of this drug and i am scared it has caused permanent damage to my back in the way of nerves or ligaments/tendons for some reason. I know its impossible to say but could it be tms? I have some of the personality traits, perfectionist, dont take criticism well and worry that i may have offended someone. I am obsessed over the pain and finding a cure its all i think about. I am lost in the medical system with no clue as what is wrong with me. I have read sarno etc and totally buy into it but maybe not for me? I cant seem to commit. The doc's reply This is TMS! The whole worry about cipro causing all symptoms under the sun, years later, after a few doses is way overblown! Get both feet into the TMS camp and you'll get better!! Best, Howard I know i need to convince myself and not rely on others, but because the pain has been every minute of every day for 18 months i doubt TMS. I go back and forth. Any advice would be helpful, i think i have read most tms books on the market. journaling doesn't seem to work for me.