Thanks so much for the advice and for asking to know more. It means a lot to know I'm not alone In the process and those who have come before me can give some guidance. My wife is super understanding and caring but hasn't been through it. She has also said some magical things at just the right time, one of which echoes your advice to be easy on myself, the opposite of how my mind has always treated me.
The Id, Ego- Super-Ego Relation to pain
This is a knowing now that your mind has given you a hard time. It makes the body tense and it also makes us tired from over worked strain in our bodies cause as you know when we think of something -- however that is -- Then we get the exact treatment as if we were in the natural thick of things hence a speedy heart and tiredness so we have to combat this with self compassion ok.
The next time you hear yourself telling yourself that you could have done better, well right then is the time to say now hold on. Its ok, ill let this pass and ill get with it better soon " No use in being so hard anymore, I got its trick, I see what im doing now" and I can do this with will training over time. I will, I must. Then say to yourself, "Its ok I love you". Yes say this -- it will make your body release tension that your super-ego has set in you through thoughts like " You should have done that better and how come you waited so long to do this project" you will also feel this emotionally if you don't get something done or accomplished to your desire.
See we have three minds working. The super-ego, Id and Ego. Your super ego is always wanting you to do better and live up to your expectations and the id wants you to stop taking orders from your super-ego and get you to have fun in the sun and relaxing , having a good time and so forth so we have to bring this into balance by "centering" . We give the id what it wants, relaxation. Peace, happiness and joy through mental will training by observing that this side of who we are has to be soothed. Like when is the next time you want to do something just for fun, then is the time to make plans just for that, hence freeing the id to be free. Making yourself happy in a soothing way.
Then you have this next time when your mind will say I got to get this project done and this is when you say ok ill get the fun done first then after this ill go and get that project done in three days. Then stick to your guns cause you just agreed to the super-ego which can be very pushy. Now after you decided to please both id and super ego then do it and this will bring you back to balance and as I've said -- You will have to practice this ok and give it plenty of time doing it everyday. Every moment of everyday as you grow over a period of weeks to months. Then you will be able to get into balance with less effort if you were to slide.
Going easy on yourself will bring a balance that will effect a cure but also maintaining that balance with the super ego and letting its power be the guide too. This way the ego which is the part of you that only you know , your true self will not be so tired and anxious having to dispute between these two forces of the mind
David B)- I started down the journey in mid august: stopped physical therapy, started working on Dr. schubiner's book, taking over the counter pain meds mostly before bed because that's when it was the worst and my sleep was a wreck. By November I was starting to get my sleep back with help of a therapist, I had glimmers that my symptoms were getting better. In fact the week before I hit bottom I had two experiences of being able to sit with no symptoms for 2-3 hours, that hadn't happened in at least 6 months. 2nd week of November I'm working out, dealing with the symptoms and in the middle of an excercise I get twinge that's different, everything tightens up, next morning I can't move. I was In such agony the following night my wife almost called the ambulance. Doc prescribes muscle relaxers and pain meds and in a few days Ive improved enough to get to the doc. Fortunately my spine doc still doesn't want to operate unless I don't don't keep improving; I also learn as I'm walking out the door that he read a bit of Sarno every day! Didn't have a chance to ask why he never said anything before.
Eric)- ok David this is where the bullet hits the bone. Are you going to believe that this pain is generated from your mind because you have the evidence or are you going to think physical which has not gotten rid of the pain yet. You have to decide 100% that's its the tension, strain and stress thoughts that your unconscious of that are creating pain in your body ok. Its ok to doubt this at first, its normal. A new paradigm not like you've grown accustomed too with your belief system so you have to recondition your belief system.
You have to know that thinking about the physical as this could be hitting a nerve or anything like that will hinder you so you have to be open to get a new idea in your mindbody now that will set you free. Its your nervous tension that has generated this pain and its from anger and fear thoughts that go on unconsciously all day long.
David B)- Two weeks ago a physical therapist suggests that my symptoms might move around so much because I have a piece of disc floating around. I ask the doc for another MRI and guess what, nothing changed from the one they took in June. I'm thinking that's suspicious to say the least. And that's where this thread begins: w me rereading Schubiner and getting reignited...
Thanks for reading and any more words of wisdom.
Be well Eric (or do you prefer Herbie)
Eric)- Your my friend now David, you can call me Herbie if you wish. Now the moving around pain is called the symptom imperative. Its only because that's the way tms works. It tries to make you think you have pain here and there and then maybe you wont believe that this phenomena is really tension induced ya know. So know that whether the pain moves or stays or gets weaker or stronger its still tms and will always do all of the above till you get that balance that I mentioned above.
You want to calm the inner child, the id-- then go and meditate for real-- mindfulness is good and you want to really get a hold on the super ego then still in all manner of your actions lighten up on yourself and agree with yourself that this is ok and you will actually get more done in the day and heal too. There's more to know as you can tell by reading Shubiners book but id make sure to get on board the SEP here at the wiki ok. It will compliment your Shubiner studies and teach you more on how to get this balance back in line ok.
Thanks
