[QUOTE Over the last 20 years, I have compassionately worked with several dozens of persons involved in what I prefer to call totalistic organizations with regard to getting them to be able to re-evaluate how they came to believe what they believe. My success rate is about 35-40%. Beware of those who say they have helped others in whatever; teaching, technique, or guidance and have been successful "except for a couple of people" Remember the old adage, "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't!"[/QUOTE] I congratulate you for helping people see the real light. I believe most religions are fantasy, one way or the other, but some are just money greedy. If you read about all religio's background their beginning is always too irrational to believe it. I remember when I would discuss with a priest, regarding catolicism, he just would tell me at the end, you just have to have faith, which is the truth. It's the only way to believe so much fantasy.