This is the most disheartening thing a doctor has said to me. However, in all fairness, this was said gently and with even a bit of humor during my consultation with the orthopedist who pinned and plated me back together after my freak hiking accident when a redwood tree fell on me. He was the perfect doctor to have in an acute/broken-body-parts situation. I will always be grateful for that. But the words he said after seeing the x-rays and scans of my hip have definitely stuck with me and reinforced my TMS thinking. I do my best to "cancel" that thought the minute I catch myself thinking of his words and change the sentence in my mind to "Your hip looks perfect!"
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Day 4 "Your hip is a mess!"
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Baseball65
Beloved Grand Eagle
This is so Funny. I was JUST chatting with a forum friend about this.
Right when I got better after reading "Healing Back Pain" in '99 or so, a co-worker had watched my fall and recovery so he knew it was 'Real'... he asked me the name of the book I read. Of course I had told him about Sarno during the many hours we worked together.
I knew his wife was in chronic pain from a horrible car accident where her whole lower spine, hips and vertebrae had all been shattered and 'rebuilt'. I wasn't sure her pain would fall under the same ...uh....factors? So I had NEVER been so presumptuous as to suggest it for them.
None the less, the next time we worked together, he told me his wife was 100% pain free AND had become an evangelist for Sarno and TMS. THAT was a powerful reinforcement for my new way of looking at pain, myself and the world.
I am pretty certain any doctor would have told her she was just gonna have to live with the pain.
JanAtheCPA
Beloved Grand Eagle
That's an amazing story, @Baseball65! Well worth repeating multiple times!
In any case, we've seen sooo many people here with dire prognoses about their hips, I can't possibly count them. They arrive here with the same doubts that you're having, they do the work, and they stop thinking about surgery, hopefully for several decades. By the time you're 80, maybe it will be time, and that's fine. My family members who got new hips did so well after 80. Others lived into their 90s with no need.
For another story of a dire diagnosis and prognosis, look to Nicole Sachs LCSW and her Dx of life-limiting spondylolitheses when she was essentially disabled with back pain in college. Among many limitations, she was told that carrying children would be impossible with this condition. She saw Dr Sarno, recovered, and defied the prognosis many times over (including three kids) and eventually left her initial career in private psychotherapy to devote herself to spreading the word. Her new book tells her story and provides a framework for recovery. You can get a lot of information from her podcast, The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs. It's on all the apps or on her website which is https://www.yourbreakawake.com/ (BreakAwake)
The episode with her book launch is a really good introduction to her story, plus Christina Sarno was her guest, which is very cool (together they have created a practitioner training program): https://www.yourbreakawake.com/podcasts/the-cure-for-chronic-pain-with-nicole-sachs-lcsw-2/episodes/2148977560 (S4 E6: LIVE FROM THE 92nd STREET Y - Dr. Sarno and the Book that Will Change Your Life)
@Carma7, I have to say that as someone who grew up in Northern California, I was faintly horrified when I read your initial post describing the attack of the redwood tree (which I can only attribute to more climate stress) but I was impressed by your fortitude and what seems like an excellent recovery from that. You may be what I think of as a proactive self-healer, which is how I self-identify, and which I believe has everything to do with my almost immediate embrace of Dr Sarno's theories back in 2011, saving me from an aging-related crisis of symptoms when I turned 60.
In any case, we've seen sooo many people here with dire prognoses about their hips, I can't possibly count them. They arrive here with the same doubts that you're having, they do the work, and they stop thinking about surgery, hopefully for several decades. By the time you're 80, maybe it will be time, and that's fine. My family members who got new hips did so well after 80. Others lived into their 90s with no need.
For another story of a dire diagnosis and prognosis, look to Nicole Sachs LCSW and her Dx of life-limiting spondylolitheses when she was essentially disabled with back pain in college. Among many limitations, she was told that carrying children would be impossible with this condition. She saw Dr Sarno, recovered, and defied the prognosis many times over (including three kids) and eventually left her initial career in private psychotherapy to devote herself to spreading the word. Her new book tells her story and provides a framework for recovery. You can get a lot of information from her podcast, The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs. It's on all the apps or on her website which is https://www.yourbreakawake.com/ (BreakAwake)
The episode with her book launch is a really good introduction to her story, plus Christina Sarno was her guest, which is very cool (together they have created a practitioner training program): https://www.yourbreakawake.com/podcasts/the-cure-for-chronic-pain-with-nicole-sachs-lcsw-2/episodes/2148977560 (S4 E6: LIVE FROM THE 92nd STREET Y - Dr. Sarno and the Book that Will Change Your Life)
Thanks for all the encouragement, Jan. Yup the redwood tree attack was horrifying on so many levels! No wind, no rain, no storms -- it was a crystal clear, blue-sky-perfect fall day on the coast in a well-maintained state park. I agree - climate stress.
I'm so new to this wiki and there is SO much information (like drinking from a firehose LOL!) -- I've been wondering if there were a lot of "hipsters" who'd overcome the cringy dx of a failing hip. I'll dig around to find their stories. And I've started to get acquainted with Nicole Sachs and her website as well.
I'm so grateful to have found this group and appreciate everyone's hard work.
I'm so new to this wiki and there is SO much information (like drinking from a firehose LOL!) -- I've been wondering if there were a lot of "hipsters" who'd overcome the cringy dx of a failing hip. I'll dig around to find their stories. And I've started to get acquainted with Nicole Sachs and her website as well.
I'm so grateful to have found this group and appreciate everyone's hard work.
Diana-M
Beloved Grand Eagle
Hi, Carma! You are one tough cookie! We are all afraid of random tragedy. And it happened to you! Hard to gain peace in the world. I’m glad you’re here. When I first came on the forum a year ago, I said the same thing about the firehose. It doesn’t really get better, you just get more used to it. Lol Using the search mechanism on this website, you can find so many things on topics that help. I know you’ll be able to find the stories you need. Have you searched the success stories yet?