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Tooth and Jaw pain

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Barkis, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. Barkis

    Barkis New Member

    Hi Everyone,

    I’m a seasoned TMS person and I have beaten an awful lot of pain and other symptoms and I also personally see TMS and anxiety as different sides of the same coin. But I’m having trouble with this particular symptoms which is jaw and pain in one particular tooth.

    It all started after some decay and an infection was found in one tooth during a routine checkup. To cut a long story short I ended up with two root canals, one lower molar crowned and the upper molar with a kind of filling.

    I had pain ever since that day in the lower molar and I am not joking when I say it drove me to near suicide and I was literally placed under house arrest by the hospital and they were visiting me four times a day for months.

    I have been to at least 6 dentists, including seeing dental consultants at the dental hospital and none of them can diagnose me with anything. But on my last visit I attended the TMJ clinic where they said that my issue is almost certainly coming from clenching in the night which I now know for certain I do. I am now diligently wearing a night guard but my pain continues. In essence it now ebbs and flows and I can go for a week in minimal or no pain to suddenly having pain for a week. What is stopping me believing it’s TMS is the fact that one tooth is sore to pressure, so I cannot chew on one side of my mouth. Additionally, the dentist has filed this tooth so that it cannot touch the top adjacent tooth.

    When I massage the muscles around my jaw and cheeks there are some incrediblly sore points that cause the tooth pain and if I touch under my jaw line beneath the tooth it is really painful - like it’s in the bone type feeling. My fear is that this tooth is fractured and yet xrays have found nothing untoward. I actually see physio who is really into TMS and we have an agreement that his work is simply helping me relax. He believes my pain is TMS.

    Essentially I want to believe:

    Stress/anxiety/rage/emotions = tension = clenching = pain, but somehow I cannot believe as yet and all because one single tooth is seemingly bearing the brunt of the pain.

    Also, regardless of how much I try I cannot train myself not to clench.

    Can anyone comment - someone might just say something that makes the difference.
  2. David88

    David88 Well known member

    Are you looking for the feelings that the pain is distracting you from? It sounds like the pain has your full attention, which is how TMS works. Next time the pain flares up, think about what you were doing, or thinking about. What feelings might you be overlooking?

    I hope that helps.
  3. Barkis

    Barkis New Member

    It does help and you are spot on in saying that the pain has got my full attention. In fact I’m at the point where when I examine my feelings I just get angry about the pain. It’s horribly obsessive.
  4. deafheaven

    deafheaven New Member

    I've been there, intense jaw pain and tooth numbness. The pain would be so intense in the morning that I was sure there had to be something happening at night like clenching and grinding. The mouthguard made no difference.

    So one day I decided to not sleep at all and see what would happen. And sure thing, at the exact time I was supposed to wake up the pain came back. That is what made me realize the whole TMJ thing is TMS. Unfortunately we trust doctors and what we read online and get trapped in the TMS pattern.

    The key is acceptance, give up, stop fighting. Learn to tolerate pain to the point where you don't notice it anymore. Your tension levels will gradually lower and revert back to normal while symptoms will slowly fade away. TMS causes us to be stuck in cycle of depression and seclusion. Start new activities and get your social life back together. Be positive and things will work out for you.

    Every TMS sufferer has sensorimotor OCD. We keep scanning our body for hours and hours. And get worried a soon as the slightest abnormality appears. Learn to breathe consciously to help you with this.

    Hope this helps somehow
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2019
  5. Baseball65

    Baseball65 Well known member

    Bodhigirl Just started a string on this same subject.

    I almost posted this vignette on her thread but I'll type it now.
    I recently had some tooth pain that was 100% TMS. After resolving it, it occurred to me that I had been 'fooled' and had a molar removed unnecessarily:

    Back in 2005 when I had only been backpain free for about 5 years or so, I moved here to Tennessee and following some work/personal problems developed lower jaw pain. The dentist couldn't diagnose it so eventually root canal-ed it and capped it. No matter what he filed (your story reminded me of this) It would only not hurt for a day or so and begin again. I became obsessed with it and after a bunch of back and forth to him it was eventually extracted. I now know from this most recent episode that the whole thing was serving the same function as my back pain.
    I have been having Tooth-grinding-TMJish pain a lot in the last year....and it began around the time I became full-time care taker for my Mom, and ended a really horrible relationship.. Unlike some other TMS symptoms it was hard to use my 'turn your mind to an unsavory thought' strategy because I was asleep when it was happening.

    However it HAS worked on waking hour tooth issues. From the sounds of your story you might stand to benefit from some of that.

    BTW...there is TONS of pages online about obsessive tooth pain in Japan... People with perfectly normal, healthy teeth going back and forth to the dentist. I found the stories when I began to suspect it as a TMS conversion.
  6. Kittyruns

    Kittyruns Peer Supporter


    I sincerely know exactly how you feel. I had dental implants that caused me horrible pain and suffering. Not to mention having to take rounds and rounds of antibiotics and spend tens of thousands of dollars. I was in so much pain and misery. i lost 30 pounds and my husband and family were so worried.

    It boiled down to my rage and anger (TMS BIG TIME) at my dentist who was also my neighbor. He was always saying I needed all this work done and it wasn't optional and it could not wait. My teeth would hurt so bad in the morning that I would just dread getting out of bed and facing the day. I also saw a dentist who made me this fantastic nightguard for $750...It is basically junk. Dentists are like the stepchildren of the medical world. A good one is worth their weight in gold but there are many out there who just are trying to make money and it makes me sick!

    Have you heard of the Curable App? It, and this forum, have helped me immeasurably! Thinking about you and am here for you if I can help you in any way!

  7. Barkis

    Barkis New Member

    So sorry I didn’t reply sooner.

    Well, I am having more good days than bad and it suddenly flares. However a TMS sinus symptom that I thought I had got rid of years ago is poking me again.

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