This video is another short but terrific interview with another TMS believer: This fellow had nearly six years of chronic back pain and spent $20,000 a year on medical treatments and diagnoses. Then he discovered Dr. JohnSarno and Dr. David Schechter and after a week 50 percent of his pain went away. Since then he has become almost totally pain free and has gone from 6 to 8 pills a day before discovering TMS to just one a day. He has been able to go swimming again and is confident he will be a totally new man again. He sounds very upbeat and enthusiastically recommends Dr. Sarno's books and accepting the philosophy that our pain is caused by TMS repressed emotions and/or our personality. He doesn't say what those were but since he believed in the Sarno books and a visit to Dr. Schechter, he practiced TMS techniques to heal.