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So true!
JanAtheCPA
Beloved Grand Eagle
Ugh. I am distressed to see two of my favorite people going at each other. I'm not going to spend time analyzing your interactions, because ultimately it always comes down to human nature, and our tendency to misread, misunderstand, miscommunicate, and take things personally. I'm just going to ask you both to stop it right now.
Diana-M
Beloved Grand Eagle
I totally agree that everyone’s journey is different. And for some people, the Sarno hypothesis only partially helps. I’m one of those people. Focusing on getting my mind-body to feel safe is doing more for me than all the journaling on anger ever has done.
I think Sarno opened the door to the concept of mind-body healing, but it’s evolving just like all human knowledge always does. There’s so much more going on in this field than there was when he started. It’s exciting, because it means there is some way out there for everyone to heal.
I think this forum plays a key role in introducing people to all the methods out there. If you stick around, you’ll learn a lot. I sure did. In the end, you have to navigate these muddy waters to find your answer. And don’t be discouraged if it takes time.
I also think it was harmful for me to mistakenly believe while on this forum that if I “just face my true feelings” I’ll get better. I’m thrilled for the souls who found relief this way. But it’s not that easy for others. And it only makes them suffer more to imply it. I do agree that some of us need a different approach. A mixture of a lot of methods.
im finally making some headway after two years, and its been mainly with diligent focus on Alan Gordon’s methods of pain reprocessing therapy.
My nervous system has been on high alert since before I could talk. That’s been my biggest problem. And allowed to fester over time, mixed with perfectionism, self hatred, PTSD, and poor life skills, eventually my system collapsed into what I have today—body-wide TmS. So yes: a complicated scenario.
I like to liken TMS, or mind body symptoms, to a big over stuffed closet. It’s such a mess! Where should you start to clean it? Start anywhere. Just keep going. Eventually, you’ll get it cleaned up. You’ll learn as you go. Don’t have to do it perfectly. Just do it. And don’t give up. Never give up. If something isn’t working after a while, pivot to something else.
I think Sarno opened the door to the concept of mind-body healing, but it’s evolving just like all human knowledge always does. There’s so much more going on in this field than there was when he started. It’s exciting, because it means there is some way out there for everyone to heal.
I think this forum plays a key role in introducing people to all the methods out there. If you stick around, you’ll learn a lot. I sure did. In the end, you have to navigate these muddy waters to find your answer. And don’t be discouraged if it takes time.
I also think it was harmful for me to mistakenly believe while on this forum that if I “just face my true feelings” I’ll get better. I’m thrilled for the souls who found relief this way. But it’s not that easy for others. And it only makes them suffer more to imply it. I do agree that some of us need a different approach. A mixture of a lot of methods.
im finally making some headway after two years, and its been mainly with diligent focus on Alan Gordon’s methods of pain reprocessing therapy.
My nervous system has been on high alert since before I could talk. That’s been my biggest problem. And allowed to fester over time, mixed with perfectionism, self hatred, PTSD, and poor life skills, eventually my system collapsed into what I have today—body-wide TmS. So yes: a complicated scenario.
I like to liken TMS, or mind body symptoms, to a big over stuffed closet. It’s such a mess! Where should you start to clean it? Start anywhere. Just keep going. Eventually, you’ll get it cleaned up. You’ll learn as you go. Don’t have to do it perfectly. Just do it. And don’t give up. Never give up. If something isn’t working after a while, pivot to something else.
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Rabscuttle
Beloved Grand Eagle
Sorry @JanAtheCPA and sorry @Booble, my words and tone were harsh. I’ll write one last post on this matter and it’s with zero intention to stir up drama. I hit my rock bottom back in January and that was the closest I was to suicide in my entire life. That was also the time I took a 2ish month break from this forum which I felt was necessary for my well being. As I have a tendency to lean towards jealousy and envy regarding people’s successes. I would read posts about people doing well and feel poorly (gross, I know) or I would read posts advocating bare bones Sarno or saying the derivatives were wastes of time or nonsense or would not get you over the hump, and would think I was missing something or I had gone down the wrong path and would never recover. I would think what was I missing, why am I broken etc etc. I dove into spirituality and meditation, and while not instant fixes they led me towards making major internal changes to the point where I’ve been essentially pain free the last 3 days and have made steady (but certainly not constant) progress these past 5 months. And I’m by no means a good meditator, I’m not some holy spiritual person free from jealousy or ego (my above posts were certainly full of ego and harshness), but I love myself a lot more and advocate for myself more and express myself way more. And I had way more hope so the severity of what my situation was stopped beating me down as much. Because the reality was, my situation was severe, not as much as others, but the despair I was in is truly hard to put into words. Had I just stuck the Sarno route and kept hammering the nail of repressed emotions or the digging of the past or traumas, I don’t know where I’d be.
this all struck a chord with me because I KNOW people are reading these forums and seriously contemplating ending their lives. And my heart breaks for them and myself for what I had to go through to be a more functioning person. Our words here have a lot of power, for every user, there’s what, 10-100 guests reading these posts? Desperation and pressure are the real killers here, and if people think it’s just one simple path and that doesn’t lead them where they want to be then I think a lot of panic can set in. I know that’s how I felt when I started out and jumped through a bunch of programs. There are so many paths to healing and wellness and the reality, in my opinion, is that once there is a foundational knowledge you have all the knowledge you need inside you to take you to where you want to be. But you need to adapt and reflect and if something is not working move on. Be honest about whether you gave something a fair shot but don’t hold on so tightly to things.
sorry again for causing drama in what should be a safe and nurturing space.
this all struck a chord with me because I KNOW people are reading these forums and seriously contemplating ending their lives. And my heart breaks for them and myself for what I had to go through to be a more functioning person. Our words here have a lot of power, for every user, there’s what, 10-100 guests reading these posts? Desperation and pressure are the real killers here, and if people think it’s just one simple path and that doesn’t lead them where they want to be then I think a lot of panic can set in. I know that’s how I felt when I started out and jumped through a bunch of programs. There are so many paths to healing and wellness and the reality, in my opinion, is that once there is a foundational knowledge you have all the knowledge you need inside you to take you to where you want to be. But you need to adapt and reflect and if something is not working move on. Be honest about whether you gave something a fair shot but don’t hold on so tightly to things.
sorry again for causing drama in what should be a safe and nurturing space.