it's really hard to post that thread title. but I've been feeling that way more than ever. I've had pretty severe chronic pain a lot of the last 22 years. I believe in TMS theory. I have conquered a number of symptom areas, such as painful shoulders and arms and jaw pain, but chronic urinary symptoms have made my life hell. I have everything to live for, optimistic outlook, very successful business, stable family life. but seeing urinary symptoms go from 6 week bouts a couple times a year to 50% of my life or more, and dealing with this for a decade and only seeing it get more entrenched...I am losing hope, and that is damning. this symptom is like torture in a Netflix crime series. sooner or later the tortured person will do anything to have it stop. I'm beginning to feel like I cant stomach the idea of life going on like this indefinitely. It makes me not care about all the wonderful, wonderful things I have and believe in. my brain is the ultimate feedback loop. it would almost be better if I had constant, stable urinary/pelvic pain like the jaw pain I used to have. but the cycle of urinating, getting a few brief moments of kind of relief and then having it build up again is the ultimate TMS trap for me, because it keeps me interacting with the pain. ignoring it hasnt done any good. interacting with it in the form of EFT or strategizing or doing meditation or breathing hasnt done any good. I'm screwed if I do and screwed if I dont. honestly I was able to escape jaw pain not by believing in TMS theory (that just got me to stop seeking medical solutions at great financial cost). I escaped it by chewing gum. period. I escaped upper body pain by putting squares of gaffers tape on pressure points. it broke the sensation-mental frustration loop enough to letting me not be afraid and not obsess. those things enabled me to stop feeding the fire, to have a sense of control and a sense of hope. I feel like I have to find that same kind of loopbreaker with the urinary symptoms or I'm literally going to be dead.