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Severe Symptoms & Steve O's Book

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by mikeinlondon, May 27, 2025.

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  1. Rabscuttle

    Rabscuttle Peer Supporter

    you are 100% correct Diana. My wording was poor. What you describe is absolutely true and still personally relevant to me, I still get jolts of major anxiety when I see older adults argue, harkening back to my parents blow out fights. I suppose what I was trying to imply was that I think the initial cause of the symptoms is genuine in being rooted in emotions/stress and being a plea from the subconscious, but what perpetuates them and keeps the heightened nervous system going and the symptoms going indefinitely is the brain acting erroneously. I think in a lot of cases the brain just starts interpreting normal sensations as pain, which is why so many associate weather or the wind or specific clothes or chairs or driving as sources of pain, when it’s really just a conditioned response made possible by a heightened nervous system.

    is it possible this is all intentional and by design of the subconscious? Absolutely.
     
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  2. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    And…also according to Claire Weekes…your nerves just plain get shot. You get so sensitive, everything is perceived as danger.
     
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  3. NewBeginning

    NewBeginning Well known member

    Literally, what seems to be happening nerves on my skin too, the nerves are so sensitized right now that any bit of heat or even wind sends them into full force reaction! And, I'm aware all of it is happening and even when it is happening what the thoughts are/how I'm breathing, all of it, but here I am again, experiencing their full on protective regime!
     
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  4. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    Oh no! :( I forget if you’ve read Claire Weekes, Hope and Help for Your Nerves. It’s super short. So comforting. She reassures there is recovery from this. Over the past year I have slowly slowly felt some of this kind of stuff subside.
     
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  5. NewBeginning

    NewBeginning Well known member

    :)Thanks @Diana-M !
    Yeah - I think I also read another of her books too.
    I've read a ton of books in this area.
     
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  6. mikeinlondon

    mikeinlondon Peer Supporter

    Bless you, Diana. Thank you for your support. One of the reasons I was suicidal was because I had severe insomnia and was loosing my mind. I feared being sent to a psychiatric centre where they might electrocute my brain as I wasn’t responding to drugs. Apparently, electrocuting the brain is legal in the UK and is an actual therapy! I can deal with pain, it’s difficult, but I can manage it. Loosing one’s mind due to severe anxiety, psychosis etc due to sleep deprivation is another challenge altogether and is what I fear the most. It is because when you are so sleep deprived you do not have the mental focus/agility to control your symptoms and all the books in the world are not help you. TMS pains don’t fear me, they just make me sad, miserable and depressed. Severe sleep deprivation is by far, without question, the worst TMS symptom I have had to date.
     
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  7. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    Mike,
    That’s horrible. I’ve had short periods of insomnia throughout my life, and even short periods make living and especially thinking and emotionally surviving very difficult. With what you faced, I can understand how hard it was for you, especially with the fear of what happens with the electrocution. I truly hope and pray you can find some answers for that. I know there are some people on here that have succeeded in getting rid of insomnia. Maybe you can contact them or do a search on insomnia. I’m sure you’ve already figured out what to do as far as the research. I honestly will pray for you. That’s what I’ve got when all else fails. And I do believe it’s powerful.

    Yesterday, I ran into this book and it really blew my mind. I wonder if you would like it. It’s called Crushing Doubt by David Ratner. Check out chapter 9. I’ll be really curious to see what you think.
     
  8. Rabscuttle

    Rabscuttle Peer Supporter

    this is what I had following my vasectomy, and was my first constant and prolonged and debilitating tMS symptom. I made massive progress using Dan Buglios approach of actively confronting the symptoms and generally taking a ‘who gives a shit approach’, changing my verbiage and thought patterns- “they’re just sensations. This isn’t forever etc” I still deal with this to an extent but it’s the difference of being a 1-2/10 discomfort level rather than a 4 or 5 and I no longer have to stress about what pants or underwear I’m wearing or what the temperature is. Additionally I can go days without these symptoms at all, but I can actively make them worse when I hyperfixate on them. Unfortunately symptom imperative followed but overcoming this first symptom was massive.
     
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  9. feduccini

    feduccini Well known member

    What I think is so frustrating about this one is that it feels very strange. It's not like pain, not like numbness, not like fatigue, not like anything. I started having it on my left thigh 2 days after my surgeon told me "if you're not having pain in the legs, you're fine".
     

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