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Sarno on inflammation ?
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CreativeOne
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Thank you! Yes that sports medicine doctor would be dumbfounded, as are my several friends who are in medical school. They think I'm a complete nut (and they are half right!)
Hello Creative One,
Thanks so much for your thoughtful response. Good for you that you just pushed on and your symptoms got better !!Like you I have several other symptoms such as chronic pelvic pain on and off for 15 years (constant last 3--MRI was normal here), really bad back pain that goes into my buttocks and tail bone (MRI showed mostly normal degenerative changes) and chronic acid reflux. Regarding my shoulders, I had this same thing 17 years ago and actually visited with Dr. Sarno who diagnosed me on the phone before I even saw him with TMS (did not have any tests done on my shoulder then). Back then I had the typical switching of symptoms (one goes away another comes). Now I am bombarded with as many as 5 things at once which is really overwhelming. What is concerning about my left shoulder is that I apparently have a type III Acrimon or hooked appearance of that space in my shoulder which makes it more narrow and more vulnerable to impingement syndrome. That is why I am guessing that Schechter is going to tell me it is part structural and part TMS. I don't know that TMS can create a narrowing of a space, although it seems it can do almost anything. I've had frozen shoulder twice --one in each arm several years apart. Just rode it out and lasted about 18 months both times. For my current shoulder issue, had a cortisone shot which did NOTHING and in fact feels worse since I got it 2 weeks ago. Dumb ass doctor should have known that that wouldn't work for someone is well beyond acute or sub-acute. So, Schechter might recommend physical therapy as the shoulder specialist did. And if that doesn't work the typical suggestion would likely be surgery which I absolutely WOULD NOT get! Thanks again for your response --really appreciate it! Some of the docs that seem more open minded are Dr. Sopher, Douglas Hoffman, probably the Dr. that Steve Ozanich loves in Jersey, and while Steve isn't a doctor, his book is beyond awesome and one of the most comprehensive i have read.
Thanks so much for your thoughtful response. Good for you that you just pushed on and your symptoms got better !!Like you I have several other symptoms such as chronic pelvic pain on and off for 15 years (constant last 3--MRI was normal here), really bad back pain that goes into my buttocks and tail bone (MRI showed mostly normal degenerative changes) and chronic acid reflux. Regarding my shoulders, I had this same thing 17 years ago and actually visited with Dr. Sarno who diagnosed me on the phone before I even saw him with TMS (did not have any tests done on my shoulder then). Back then I had the typical switching of symptoms (one goes away another comes). Now I am bombarded with as many as 5 things at once which is really overwhelming. What is concerning about my left shoulder is that I apparently have a type III Acrimon or hooked appearance of that space in my shoulder which makes it more narrow and more vulnerable to impingement syndrome. That is why I am guessing that Schechter is going to tell me it is part structural and part TMS. I don't know that TMS can create a narrowing of a space, although it seems it can do almost anything. I've had frozen shoulder twice --one in each arm several years apart. Just rode it out and lasted about 18 months both times. For my current shoulder issue, had a cortisone shot which did NOTHING and in fact feels worse since I got it 2 weeks ago. Dumb ass doctor should have known that that wouldn't work for someone is well beyond acute or sub-acute. So, Schechter might recommend physical therapy as the shoulder specialist did. And if that doesn't work the typical suggestion would likely be surgery which I absolutely WOULD NOT get! Thanks again for your response --really appreciate it! Some of the docs that seem more open minded are Dr. Sopher, Douglas Hoffman, probably the Dr. that Steve Ozanich loves in Jersey, and while Steve isn't a doctor, his book is beyond awesome and one of the most comprehensive i have read.
ellie freegan
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. I've spoken to hundreds of people who get inflammation when under stress and tension. Much of it a conditioned response, but it occurs commonly.
What I don't understand about this is how to get rid of the inflammation caused by stress and tension and how inflammation is a conditioned response when presumably it can happen without us being aware. For example I took part in a trial a few years ago looking at the relationship between inflammatory markers in the blood and depression. The fact that I was accepted on to the trial means that I must have had certain levels of those inflammatory markers but if my blood hadn't been tested I wouldn't know that I had inflammation. I worry that this inflammation may also be causing my pain.
thanks in advance for any response.
What I don't understand about this is how to get rid of the inflammation caused by stress and tension and how inflammation is a conditioned response when presumably it can happen without us being aware. For example I took part in a trial a few years ago looking at the relationship between inflammatory markers in the blood and depression. The fact that I was accepted on to the trial means that I must have had certain levels of those inflammatory markers but if my blood hadn't been tested I wouldn't know that I had inflammation. I worry that this inflammation may also be causing my pain.
thanks in advance for any response.
amesbee83
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Does the inflammation caused by TMS show up anywhere, for example scans/X-rays/on a CRP blood test? The reason I ask is I am experiencing a tonne of TMS symptoms, including carpal tunnel-like symptoms, so much so that I can feel the inflammation in my palm…but all my bloods and scans show clear.