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Remembering what it was like to be pain free

Discussion in 'Support Subforum' started by Mtngal, Oct 10, 2015.

  1. Mtngal

    Mtngal Well known member

    Ive been trying to imagine what it was like to stand without pain when my back was "good". But I find it really hard especially when the pain is bad. Does anyone else find that it's easier to remember the pain you had before vs the absence of pain? I'm trying to retrain my pain pathways by forming an image of an MRI brain scan all lit up when in pain and "dimming" the lights. At the same time I'm trying to feel the way it felt when I had no pain and see myself standing doing my job etc. This is how Dr M Moskowitz cured his chronic pain of 13 years as described in Dr. Doiges book about neuroplasticity. You can check this out under sub forum here on this site "mindbody videos" posted by Mike.
    I'm finding this pretty hard to do but have been only at it a couple days. I'm hoping this will work as my TMS acceptance is not working well right now.
     
  2. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi Mtngal, just a suggestion, but do you currently meditate or practice mindfullness? I think sometimes when we the amygdala is at a state of unrest, no matter what techniques we practice we won't be reaping maximum rewards.

    I personally, would try practicing mindfullness for 8 weeks, as suggested By Mark Williams and Jon Kabatt-Zinn, then perhaps use the guided visual imagery techniques.

    It's just a suggestion, but I think it could help.

    Best regards

    Mike
     
  3. Mtngal

    Mtngal Well known member

    Actually I've just started with the Mindfullness Summit and I have been trying the mindfulness practice just in everyday life like trying to be super aware of my external environment while in pain. But no, I haven't been meditating and so I will start doing that. Thanks so much for the suggestions Mike.
    BTW today's video on the Summit was very good.
     
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  4. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Great, but try and extend awareness into your thinking too, observing, being with and not passing judgement.

    Yes it was great, but I kinda miss that Mell wasn't interviewing today. I had just gotten used to the format and her interviewing technique, it just felt more like a lecture today.

    I think the guided visual imagery may work better when your mind is calm and without chatter. Please let me know how you progress.

    Have a wonderful weekend
     
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  5. Mtngal

    Mtngal Well known member

    Thank you Mike. That is good advice. I will incorporate that into my mindfulness practice.
    I have some catching up to do on the Summit so i only saw one with Mell interviewing.
    You also have a great weekend.
     
  6. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Excellent advice from Mike, Mtngal. He is absolutely right, that learning to recognize and cancel the negative chatter that is constantly going on in our brains is vital to recovery. I know without any doubt and from personal experience that this is true. That doesn't mean I have achieved 100% recovery, but I have achieved enough to know that this works.

    I think this is a very powerful visualization, and I would encourage you to keep working on it as part of your meditation practice. With mindfulness!

    I think this is equally powerful, but for some reason, probably due to conditioning, it's also harder than a physically-focused visualization like your spine one. I have only been able to do this successfully when I have pain on one side, and can visualize the actual lack of pain on the other side - like arm or foot pain, for example. I have had vague non-vertigo dizziness for years, which still flares when I'm stressed out, and trying to visualize what non-dizziness felt like just doesn't work.

    What DOES work is meditation and mindfulness, addressing the stress, and sometimes getting back to journaling. But I've never stuck with it. I've been able to successfully use visualizations and mindfulness at various times in the past, even "before Sarno" but I just know in my heart that if I make a commitment to a daily practice that the benefits will be enormous. I said recently, somewhere else, that I came back to the forum just in time to meet some terrific new members and to join the Mindfulness Summit, which I am loving. I have already purchased the Full Access Pass (proceeds go to charity) so I'm not tied down to the 24-hour limit for listening to each segment!
     
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  7. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    More fantastic advice from Jan.

    I'd like to add, that Dr Emmet Miller has some fantastic guided visual imagery recordings available on his site for a few bucks, I'm pretty sure there is one for back pain. Both, he and Martin Rossman were the founders of the technique. So if you need a structured recording on back pain, explore his site. I know SteveO speaks highly of Dr Emmet Millers -Abolish Anxiety recording.

    Best regards
     
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  8. Mtngal

    Mtngal Well known member

    Oh I'll have to get that pass too. I did see that but didn't check it out thoroughly. You are right Jan, it's easier to conjure up a visual image rather than recall how you felt emotionally I guess. I've been journaling in the way that Dr. Hanscom recommends. I think it is gradually helping. I hope you can get back to it. But I see that the mindfulness and meditation seem to be big ones according to most people.
    The latter is hard for me because I've always been so type A. But just what I need. That's interesting that your dizziness appears with stress. Good old TMS the Distractor!
     
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  9. Mtngal

    Mtngal Well known member

    Just checked out Dr Emmett Millers site. Will get Abolish Anxiety mp download. I also recommend Dr Schubiners cd. It comes with book Unlearn Your Pain and has 4 great tracks using mindfulness and some guided imagery. I usually listen to it when I go to bed at night. I think his voice is very soothing.
     
  10. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Mtngal, just a tip, I think Abolish Anxiety is a few bucks cheaper on Amazon than on his official site. Just thought I would save you a few dollars :)
     
  11. Mtngal

    Mtngal Well known member

    Thanks Jan I was just going to check that out!
     
  12. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Lol I'm Mike not Jan :)
     
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  13. Mtngal

    Mtngal Well known member

    Oops! Sorry about that ha ha.
     
  14. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    How bizarre, it's the equivalent of $12 on amazon UK, vs $17 on his site. Looks like they made a mistake on the UK pricing.
     
  15. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    The cds by Drs. Miller and Schubiner are wonderful and help us to understand TMS and Mindfulness Meditation better.

    I also found this in a google search:

    Meditation Scripts

    Posted on November 5, 2013 by admin

    Reference: Mindfulness Meditation, CD Series 2, Jon Kabat-Zinn

    These meditations scripts can help you understand the nuts and bolts of mindfulness practices. If you are reading a script aloud, make sure to read slowly, and pause occasionally.

    Guided Sitting Meditation

    This guided sitting meditation will help you learn to simply be and to look within yourself with mindfulness and equanimity. Allow yourself to switch from the usual mode of doing to a mode of non-doing. Of simply being.

    As you allow your body to become still, bring your attention to the fact that you are breathing. And become aware of the movement of your breath as it comes into your body and as it leaves your body. Not manipulating the breath in any way or trying to change it. Simply being aware of it and of the feelings associated with breathing. And observing the breath deep down in your belly. Feeling the abdomen as it expands gently on the inbreath, and as it falls back towards your spine on the outbreath. Being totally here in each moment with each breath. Not trying to do anything, not trying to get any place, simply being with your breath.

    You will find that from time to time your mind will wander off into thoughts, fantasies, anticipations of the future or the past, worrying, memories, whatever. When you notice that your attention is no longer here and no longer with your breathing, and without judging yourself, bring your attention back to your breathing and ride the waves of your breathing, fully conscious of the duration of each breath from moment to moment.

    Every time you find your mind wandering off the breath, gently bringing it back to the present, back to the moment-to-moment observing of the flow of your breathing. Using your breath to help you tune into a state of relaxed awareness and stillness.

    Now as you observe your breathing, you may find from time to time that you are becoming aware of sensations in your body. As you maintain awareness of your breathing, see if it is possible to expand the field of your awareness so that it includes a sense of your body as a whole as you sit here. Feeling your body, from head to toe, and becoming aware of all the sensations in your body.

    Being here with whatever feelings and sensations come up in any moment without judging them, without reacting to them, just being fully here, fully aware of whatever you’re experiencing. And again whenever you notice that your mind wandered off, just bringing it back to your breathing and your body as you sit here not going anywhere, not doing anything just simply being, simply sitting. Moment to moment, being fully present, fully with yourself.

    Now as you sit here once again allowing the field of your awareness to expand. This time, expanding your awareness to include thoughts as they move through your mind. So letting your breathing and sense of your body be in the background and allowing the thinking process itself to be the focus of your awareness.

    And rather than following individual thoughts and getting involved in the content and going from one thought to the next, simply seeing each thought as it comes up in your mind as a thought and letting the thoughts just come and go as you sit and dwell in stillness, witnessing them and observing them. Whatever they are…just observing them as events in the field of your consciousness…as they come into your awareness and they linger and as they dissolve.

    If you find yourself at any point drawn into this stream of thinking and you notice that you are no longer observing them, just coming back to observing them as events and using your breathing and the sense of your body to anchor you and stabilize you in the present.

    The thoughts can take any form, they can have any content and they can be either neutral or very highly charged. If thoughts come up that have fear in them, then just be aware of fear being here and letting these thoughts come and go. The same for worries, preoccupations, and so on. Regardless of the feeling that a thought might create for you, just observing it as simply a thought and letting it be here without pursuing it or without rejecting it. Noticing that from moment to moment, new thoughts will come and go.

    As the meditation ends, you might give yourself credit for having spent this time nourishing yourself in a deep way by dwelling in this state of non-doing, in this state of being. For having intentionally made time for yourself to simply be who you are. And as you move back into the world, allow the benefits of this practice to expand into every aspect of your life.

    Guided Body Scan

    This guided body scan meditation is intended to help you enter a very deep state of relaxation. It is best if you can manage to stay awake throughout the entire exercise. It’s important to remember to not try to relax. This will just create tension. What you’ll be doing instead is becoming aware of each passing moment and just accepting what is happening within you, seeing it as it is. Let go of the tendency of wanting things to be different from how they are now and allow things to be exactly as you find them. Just watch the activity of your mind, letting go of judgmental and critical thoughts when they arise, and just doing what the exercise guides you to do as best you can.

    Lie down in a warm and private place, dressed in loose and comfortable clothing at a time when you will not be interrupted. Closing your eyes, and letting your arms lie alongside your body, your feet falling away from each other and slowly bringing your attention to the fact that you are breathing. Not trying to control your breath in any way but simply experiencing it as the air moves in and out of your body and noticing your abdomen and feeling the sensations there as your breath comes into your body and your abdomen gently expands. Then noticing your belly deflate as the breath comes out of your body. And following the rhythmic movement of each breath…the rising of your belly on the inbreath and on each outbreath just letting go, letting your body become heavy as it sinks a little bit deeper into relaxation. Just bringing full attention to each breath in each moment.

    Now bringing your attention to your feet, becoming aware of whatever sensations are there. If you are registering a blank as you tune in, then just experiencing nothing. And as you breathe in, imagine your breath moving all the way down to your feet and then when you reach your feet, begin your outbreath and let it move all the way up your body and out your nose. So that you’re breathing in from your nose and breathing out from your feet. And when you are ready, letting your feet dissolve in your mind’s eye. Become aware of the shins and calf muscles and the sensations in the lower legs, not just on the surface but right down into the bones, experiencing and accepting what you feel here and breathing into it, then breathing out from it. Then letting go of your lower legs as you relax into the bed or mat. And moving now into the thighs and if there’s any tension just noticing that. Breathing into and out from the thighs. Then letting your thighs dissolve and relax.

    Shift your attention to your pelvis now. From one hip to the other. Noticing your buttocks in contact with the bed or the mat. And the sensations of contact and of weight. Becoming aware of the region of the genitals. And whatever sensations or lack of sensations you are experiencing. And directing your breath down into your pelvis, breathing with the entirety of your pelvis. And as you breath out, moving the breath back up through your body and out your nose, letting your pelvis soften and release all tension as you sink even deeper into a state of relaxed awareness and stillness. Totally present in each moment. Content to just be, and to just be right here as you are right now. Direct your attention now to your lower back. And just experiencing your back as it is. Letting your breath penetrate and move into every part of your lower back on the in-breath. And on the out-breath, just letting any tension, any tightness, any holding on just flow out as much as it will. And then letting go of your lower back. And moving up into your upper back now. Just feeling the sensations in your upper back. You may even feel your ribcage, in back as well as in front, expand on the in-breath. And any tightness, fatigue or discomfort in this part of your body, just letting them dissolve and move out with the outbreath as you let go and sink even deeper into stillness and relaxation.

    And now shifting your attention to your belly again and experiencing the rising and falling of your belly as you breathe. Feeling the movements of your diaphragm, that umbrella-like muscle that separates your belly from your chest. And experiencing the chest as it expands on the in-breath and deflates on the out-breath. And if you can, tune into the rhythmic beating of your heart within your chest. Feeling it if you can. As well as the lungs expanding on either side of your heart. Just experiencing your chest, your belly, as you lie here…the muscles on the chest wall, the breasts, the entirety of the front of your body. And now just letting this region dissolve into relaxation as well.

    Moving your attention now to your fingertips and to both hands together, just becoming aware of the sensations now in the tips of your fingers and thumbs where you may feel some pulsations from the blood flow, a dampness or a warmth or whatever you feel. Just feeling your fingers. And expand your awareness to include the palms of your hands and the backs of your hands and your wrists. And here again perhaps picking up the pulsations of the arteries in your wrists as the blood flows to and from your hands. And becoming aware as well of the forearms. And the elbows. Any and all sensations regardless of what they are. Allowing the field of your awareness to include now the upper arms. Right up to your shoulders. Just experiencing your shoulders and if there are any tensions, breathing into your shoulders and arms. And letting that tension dissolve as you breathe out. Letting go of the tension and letting go of your arms. All the way from your fingertips, right through to your shoulders. As you sink even deeper into a state of relaxed awareness. Just being present in each moment. Letting go of whatever thoughts come up or whatever impulses to move and just experiencing yourself in this moment.

    And now focus your attention on your neck and throat and feel this part of your body, experiencing what it feels like perhaps when you swallow and when you breathe. And then letting it go. Letting it relax and dissolve in your mind’s eye. Becoming aware of your face now. Focusing on the jaw and the chin, just experiencing them as they are.

    Becoming aware of your lips and your mouth. And becoming aware of your cheeks now…and your nose, feeling the breath as it moves in and out at the nostrils. And be aware of your eyes. And the entire region around your eyes and eyelids. And if there’s any tension, letting it leave as the breath leaves. And now the forehead, letting it soften to let go of stored emotions. And the temples. And if you sense any emotion associated with the tension or feelings in your face, just being aware of that. Breathing in and letting the face dissolve into relaxation and stillness. And now become aware of your ears, and back and top of your head. Now letting your whole face and head relax. For now, just letting it be as it is. Letting it be still and neutral. Relaxed and at peace.

    Now letting your breath move through your entire body in whatever way feels natural for you. Through the entire length of your body. All of your muscles in a deep state of relaxation. And your mind simply aware of this energy, of this flow of breath. Experiencing your entire body breathing. Sinking deeper and deeper into a state of stillness and deep relaxation. Allow yourself to feel whole. In touch with your essential self in a realm of silence, of stillness, of peace. And seeing that this stillness is in itself healing. And allowing the world to be as it is beyond your personal fears and concerns. Beyond the tendencies of your mind to want everything to be a certain way. Seeing yourself as complete right now as you are. As totally awake right now.

    As the exercise ends, bring your awareness back to your body again, feeling the whole of it. You may want to wiggle your toes and fingers. Allow this calmness and this centeredness to remain with you when you move. Congratulate yourself on having taken the time to nourish yourself in this way. And remember that this state of relaxation and clarity is accessible to you by simply paying attention to your breath in any moment, no matter what’s happening in your day. Let your breath be a source of constant strength and energy for you.

    Awareness of Breath

    This guided meditation on the breath will help you learn to simply be and to look within yourself with mindfulness and equanimity. Allow yourself to switch from the usual mode of doing to a mode of non-doing. Of simply being. Sitting in an erect posture, either on a straight back chair or on a cushion. As you allow your body to become still, bring your attention to the fact that you are breathing. And become aware of the movement of your breath as it comes into your body and as it leaves your body. Not manipulating the breath in any way or trying to change it. Simply being aware of it and of the feelings associated with breathing. And observing the breath deep down in your belly. Feeling the abdomen as it expands gently on the inbreath, and as it falls back towards your spine on the outbreath. Being totally here in each moment with each breath. Not trying to do anything, not trying to get any place, simply being with your breath. Giving full care and attention to each inbreath and to each outbreath. As they follow one after the other in a never ending cycle and flow.

    You will find that from time to time your mind will wander off into thoughts. When you notice that your attention is no longer here and no longer with your breathing, and without judging yourself, bring your attention back to your breathing and ride the waves of your breathing, fully conscious of the duration of each breath from moment to moment. Every time you find your mind wandering off the breath, gently bringing it back to the present, back to the moment-to-moment observing of the flow of your breathing. Using your breath as an anchor to focus your attention, to bring you back to the present whenever you notice that your mind is becoming absorbed or reactive. Using your breath to help you tune into a state of relaxed awareness and stillness.

    Now as you observe your breathing, you may find from time to time that you are becoming aware of sensations in your body. As you maintain awareness of your breathing, see if it is possible to expand the field of your awareness so that it includes a sense of your body as a whole as you sit here. Feeling your body, from head to toe, and becoming aware of all the sensations in your body. So that now you are observing not only the flow of breathing, but the sense of your body as a whole.

    Being here with whatever feelings and sensations come up in any moment without judging them, without reacting to them, just being fully here, fully aware. Totally present with whatever your feelings are and with your breath and a sense of your body as a whole. And again whenever you notice that your mind wandering off, just bringing it back to your breathing and your body as you sit here not going anywhere, not doing anything just simply being, simply sitting. Moment to moment, being fully present, fully with yourself.

    Reestablishing your awareness on the body as a whole and on the breath as it moves in and out of your body. Coming back to a sense of fullness of each inbreath, and the fullness of each outbreath. If you find yourself at any point drawn into a stream of thinking and you notice that you are no longer observing the breath, just using your breathing and the sense of your body to anchor you and stabilize you in the present.

    Just being with your breathing from moment to moment, just sitting in stillness, looking for nothing and being present to all. Just as it is, just as it unfolds. Just being right here, right now. Complete. Human. Whole.

    As the practice comes to an end, you might give yourself credit for having spent this time nourishing yourself in a deep way by dwelling in this state of non-doing, in this state of being. For having intentionally made time for yourself to simply be who you are. And as you move back into the world, allow the benefits of this practice to expand into every aspect of your life.

    Guided Mountain Meditation

    Sit with a straight back, your head held erect on your neck and shoulders, allow the shoulders to fully relax. And place your hands on your knees.

    Close your eyes and bring your attention to the flow of your breathing. Feeling each inbreath and each outbreath. Just observing your breathing without trying to change it or regulate it in any way. Allowing the body to be still. And sitting with a sense of dignity, a sense of resolve, a sense of being complete, whole, in this very moment, with your posture reflecting this sense of wholeness.

    And as you sit here, picture in your mind’s eye as best you can the most beautiful mountain that you know or have seen or can imagine. Just holding the image and feeling of this mountain in your mind’s eye, let it gradually come into greater focus. Observe its overall shape, its lofty peak high in the sky, the large base rooted in the rock of the earth’s crust, its steep or gently sloping sides. Notice how massive it is, how solid, how unmoving, how beautiful both from afar and up close.

    Perhaps your mountain has snow at the top and trees on the lower slopes. Perhaps it has one prominent peak, perhaps a series of peaks or a high plateau. Whatever its shape or appearance, just sitting and breathing with the image of this mountain. Observing it, noticing its qualities and when you feel ready, seeing if you can bring the mountain into your own body so that the body sitting here and the mountain in your mind’s eye become one. So that as you sit here you share in the massiveness and the stillness and majesty of the mountain. You become the mountain rooted in the sitting posture, your head becomes the lofty peak, supported by the rest of the body. Your shoulders and arms the sides of the mountain. Your buttocks and legs the solid base rooted to your chair. Experiencing in your body a sense of uplift from deep within your pelvis and spine, with each breath as you continue sitting, becoming a little more a breathing mountain, unwavering in your stillness, completely what you are, beyond words and thought. A centred, rooted, unmoving presence.

    Now as you sit here becoming aware of the fact that as the sun travels across the sky, the light and shadows and colours are changing virtually moment by moment. Night follows day and day follows night. A canopy of stars, the moon, then the sun. Through it all, the mountain just sits, experiencing change in each moment. Constantly changing, yet always just being itself. It remains still as the seasons flow into one another and as the weather changes, moment by moment, and day by day. Calmness abiding all change.

    In summer, there’s no snow on the mountain except perhaps for the very peaks. In fall, the mountain may wear a coat of brilliant fire colours. In winter, a blanket of snow and ice. In any season, it may find itself at times enshrouded in clouds or fog or pelted by freezing rain. People may come to see the mountain and comment on how beautiful it is or on how it’s not a good day to see the mountain. None of this matters to the mountain which remains at all times its essential self. Clouds may come, and clouds may go. The mountain’s magnificence and beauty are not changed one bit by the way people see it or not or by the weather. Seen or unseen, in sun or clouds, broiling or frigid, day or night, it just sits, being itself. At times, visited by violent storms, buffeted by snow and rain and winds of unthinkable magnitude. Through it all, the mountain continues to sit unmoved by the weather, by what happens on the surface, by the world of appearances.

    And in the same way, as we sit in meditation, we can learn to experience the mountain. We can embody the same unwavering stillness and rootedness in the face of everything that changes in our own lives over seconds, over hours, over years. In our lives and in our meditation practice, we constantly experience the changing nature of mind and body and of the outer world. We have our own periods of light and darkness, our moments of colour and our moments of drabness. Certainly, we experience storms of varying intensity and violence in the outer world and in our own minds and bodies. We endure periods of darkness and pain, as well as the moments of joy. Even our appearance changes constantly, experiencing a weather of its own.

    By becoming the mountain in our meditation practice, we can link up with its strength and stability and adopt it for our own. We can use its energies to support our energy to encounter each moment with mindfulness and equanimity and clarity. It may help us to see that our thoughts and feelings, our preoccupations, our emotional storms and crises, even the things that happen to us, are very much like the weather on the mountain. We tend to take it all personally but its strongest characteristic is impersonal. The weather of our own lives is not to be ignored or denied. It is to be encountered, honoured, felt, known for what it is and held in awareness. And in holding it in this way, we come to know a deeper silence, and stillness, and wisdom. Mountains have this to teach us and much more if we can come to listen.

    Meditation on Lovingkindness

    In this meditation on lovingkindness, allow yourself to switch from the usual mode of doing to a mode of non-doing. Of simply being. As your body becomes still, bring your attention to the fact that you are breathing. And become aware of the movement of your breath as it comes into your body and as it leaves your body. Not manipulating the breath in any way or trying to change it. Simply being aware of it and of the feelings associated with breathing. And observing the breath deep down in your belly. Feeling the abdomen as it expands gently on the inbreath, and as it falls back towards your spine on the outbreath. Being totally here in each moment with each breath. Not trying to do anything, not trying to get any place, simply being with your breath. Giving full care and attention to each inbreath and to each outbreath. As they follow one after the other in a never ending cycle and flow. If distracting thoughts arise, acknowledge them, then return to the practice.

    And now bringing to mind someone for whom you have deep feelings of love. Seeing or sensing this person and noticing your feelings for them arise in your body. It may be simply a smile that spreads across your face, or your chest becomes warm. Whatever the effects, allow them to be felt.

    Now letting go of this person in your imagination, and keeping in awareness the feelings that have arisen.

    Bring yourself to mind now. And seeing if you can offer lovingkindness to yourself, by letting these words become your words…

    May I be happy

    May I be healthy

    May I ride the waves of my life

    May I live in peace

    No matter what I am given

    And noticing the feelings that arise and letting them be, as you look within yourself with mindfulness and equanimity.

    When you are comfortable, try offering lovingkindess to someone who supports you, who has always “been on your side.” Bringing this person to mind, imagining them perhaps across from you, and letting these words become your words…

    May you be happy

    May you be healthy

    May you ride the waves of your life

    May you live in peace

    No matter what you are given

    Once your feelings flow easily to a loved one, turn your attention now to someone with whom you have difficulty – it’s best not to start with the most difficult person, but perhaps someone who brings up feelings or irritation or annoyance. And seeing if you can let these words become your words as you keep this person in awareness…

    May you be happy

    May you be healthy

    May you ride the waves of your life

    May you live in peace

    No matter what you are given

    Notice the sensations and feelings that arise within you. And seeing if you can just allow them and let them be.

    And now bringing to mind the broader community of which you are a part. You might imagine your family, your workmates, your neighbours, or fan out your attention until you include all persons and creatures on the planet. And including yourself in this offering of lovingkindness, as you let these words become your words…

    May we be happy

    May we be healthy

    May we ride the waves of our lives

    May we live in peace

    No matter what we are given

    Notice the sensations and feelings that arise within you. Sit with them for a few moments until you are ready to end the practice.
     
  16. Mtngal

    Mtngal Well known member

    Thanks Walt for all those. Appreciated!
     
  17. Anne Walker

    Anne Walker Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi. I worked with a somatic experiencing therapist and part of the work we did was to focus on a part of my body that was not in pain and to sense into it. At first I could not feel any part of my body not in pain, my focus was dominated by pain. It took several months of practice but eventually I could sense into a part of my body that was pain free, even if it was just my elbow. This is a very valuable skill to learn. It can really take the edge off the pain and I think was instrumental in my coping with and eventually not have my thoughts dominated by the pain. In my case, it took a lot of patience and practice but I had also been in chronic pain for a very long time.
     
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  18. Mtngal

    Mtngal Well known member

    Thank you Anne. I know SteveO also used this method and I sort of forgot about it. Im going to try it. Also for everybody out there I've used and am using exercise as a way to beat this. Even if the pain is there and you don't think you can do it, a lot of times if you just go ahead anyway it feels better afterwards. At least you're getting some blood flow going. That also solidifies the TMS diagnosis because anything that increases blood flow to the area decreases the pain. And since TMS is mild oxygen deprivation it makes sense.
     
  19. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    Athletes have always used mind-over-body mental techniques to push themselves to go farther, faster, and better. When I'm at the gym and dreading the next exercise that my trainer wants me to do, I force myself to make a mental shift and consciously visualize the benefits I'm achieving and remind myself how good I feel afterwards.

    You know, I hadn't really thought about it before, but this is actually an exercise in mindfulness. I'm being mindful of my negative self-talk ("oh no, I hate lunges) and making a decision to change it ("lunges are great for bone density and firm thighs!"). And it's amazing what a shift in attitude can accomplish.
     
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  20. Forest

    Forest Beloved Grand Eagle

    Not to change the subject, but Norman Doidge is well respected and really brilliant. He's got expertise both in psychoanalysis and neuroscience and one of his books, The Brain that Changes Itself, was listed as the best general interest book on the brain.

    I found a video where he talks about Dr. Moskowitz overcoming his chronic pain, as well as another pain success story. It's not all about pain, but still powerful stuff. The part about pain starts at 9:22:
     
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