Edit: Maybe I should have put this in the support forum. Could a mod please move this.
Backstory first of past success with TMS, feel free to skip this
——————Backstory————-
Back in highschool I had problems with RSI in regards to computer use which lead to me leaving highschool early and becoming a childcare worker rather than a computer programmer (to avoid worsening RSI).
Interesting thing is that I used to use the computer up to 8 hours a day from the age of 8 to 16 without an issue but the moment I learned about RSI in a software lesson, I got the disease a week later and with pain getting worse over a few months to the point of causing me to be unable to write or type within 1 minute of starting, I had to leave school.
After leaving school in 2011, I found out about TMS a few months later and thought that, possibly due to my fear of the HSC (big test at the end of grade/year 12 that I thought would ruin my entire life) my mind created this illness as a way to escape highschool to prevent me taking that test I was so afraid of.
Even after school ended I couldn’t use the computer or even play computer games which I felt was a waste of time that would only make my condition worse.
So to cure myself, I attempted to create a let’s play series on YouTube which to me was not as much as a waste of time as I’d be helping my YouTube channel grow and earning money while having fun. I started with the goal of making 10 minute episodes and by episode 6 onwards I was making episodes over an hour long and having so much fun that I’d think only 10 minutes had passed when in actual fact, 90 minutes had passed and I was almost entirely pain free.
So I’m “cured” of RSI in my hands, arms and shoulders (mostly) when using the computer but I must admit, I still can’t write with pen and paper for more than 15 minutes without feeling pain.
———————End Back Story—————
Now onto my main problem that’s still causing me so much suffering.... Backpain.
I first noticed my back pain at the age of 14 (I’m 24 now) when working small 3 hour shifts at McDonald’s. I never increased my hours due to needing to spend the rest of the day in bed after a 3 hour morning shift every Saturday. The pain wasn’t worth the $7 AUD per hour so I quit the job 8 months later.
Coming to now, 10 years later, I’ve noticed something very interesting about the pain, it only affects me and builds up when I’m not walking. In other words, I can go on a non-stop 10 kilometre/2 hour fast walk and be fine, no back pain at all 90% of the time. Yet if I try stand still in one spot for 1 minute, pain starts to build up and by 10 minutes it takes a full hour of laying in a firm bed to recover from the back pain. I can slightly increase my standing still time if I walk on the spot or shift my weight from leg to leg constantly, but this looks very rude and weird in public places.
This pain also affects me if I’m sitting with both feet on the ground (or hovering/not reaching the ground) and sitting up straight without something supporting my back or if I’m sitting in a hard church chair. Infact, the only way I can sit without pain is by placing one leg over the over and leaning back on a soft but firm support (office chair) or by sitting with both my feet on the chair with my knees bent and my heels touching my bum while my back leans hard against the backrest almost as if I was laying down in a bed.
What leads me to feel this is TMS though is the way I can simply look at a picture of people sitting on a rock or chair without a back support (like a bar stool) while I’m laying in a bed (the best position to have no back pain) and yet the moment I look at the image or even think about myself doing it, a tinkling feeling goes through my back and I start to feel the pain, as if I myself was actually sitting on the rock or stool without back support. At which point I’d have to look away from the image and take a minute or two to recover from the pain. And this pain is identical to what I usually experience when sitting or standing still without walking!
Another reason I think this is TMS, is the type of pain. It’s so unspecific in regards to area. A few weeks ago I picked up a baby chicken and, it must of been the way I held it, I suddenly couldn’t move and someone had to take the chicken away from me. I had a sharp pain that I could pinpoint and point to on my back and for 4 days I had to lay in bed to recover which experiencing the sharp pain with every tiny movement I made. It was a direct pain very different to my usual pain and my chiropractor told me it was a spasm.
My normal pain that I experience if I stand still (bending forward and doing something with my hands while standing still such as the dishes causes the pain to come in as little as 5 seconds and after 2 minutes be unbearable and require hours of recovery) is very unspecific. I couldn’t tell you where I’m sore and instead, I’d say the whole back because the whole thing, from top to bottom is sore and while it’s sore, my body has full range of movement (unlike that sharp pain that day) and can do anything, yet the pain is awful and doesn’t go away until I’ve laid down for a long time.
The important thing to note is that while I’m sore with the stand still induced pain, if I pretended I wasn’t sore, I could do everything I could do if I wasn’t sore, it’s just super intensely painful, constantly, yet movements don’t effect or increase or set off the pain at all. The pain is a hard to explain pain with a definite tingling feeling. It’s not like the sharp pain I could pinpoint that day that prevented me from moving properly.
The thing that’s making me think this isn’t TMS though is that fact that over the past 10 years I’ve seen countless professionals such as 3 chiropractors, 2 physios and a Bowen therapist that have all identified I have a lot of back problems, and yet, after all their treatment, no change, they have done all these back manipulations while I’ve laid down, they’ve given me exercises which I do daily and yet none of it works. I’ve got Scolosis, Kyphosis, forward neck syndrome, very poor posture, a bunch of weird problems with my spine that I can’t remember as my chiropractor has told me, one leg longer than the other, my knee on my right leg doesn’t match up with my ankle and thus to bend my knee forward I must turn my foot outwards, I wear orthotics due to foot problems... there’s tons of problems with me!
The reason I’m scared about thinking of TMS as a treatment is because, I actually have tons of problems, it’s not like I’ve been checked and my spine is perfect with no reason for pain etc, there is the potential that this is caused from physical deformaties and not my mind. In ignoring pain, I could actually make my problems worse. So I’m stuck, yet, with the walking thing, my chiropractor still can’t work out why I’m able to walk 10km without pain and yet even standing still for a minute causes me pain. There could be hope in the TMS theory here.... he still believes that “once I build core strength and improve posture, it could go away”. I’ve been seeing my current chiropractor for about 6 weeks.
So what do you guys think about this? I’m not asking you any specific questions, instead, I’m asking you to give your opinions so that I don’t trap you into answering what I’m asking rather than answering what you feel is important or pops out to you.
Thanks in advance for your answers
Backstory first of past success with TMS, feel free to skip this
——————Backstory————-
Back in highschool I had problems with RSI in regards to computer use which lead to me leaving highschool early and becoming a childcare worker rather than a computer programmer (to avoid worsening RSI).
Interesting thing is that I used to use the computer up to 8 hours a day from the age of 8 to 16 without an issue but the moment I learned about RSI in a software lesson, I got the disease a week later and with pain getting worse over a few months to the point of causing me to be unable to write or type within 1 minute of starting, I had to leave school.
After leaving school in 2011, I found out about TMS a few months later and thought that, possibly due to my fear of the HSC (big test at the end of grade/year 12 that I thought would ruin my entire life) my mind created this illness as a way to escape highschool to prevent me taking that test I was so afraid of.
Even after school ended I couldn’t use the computer or even play computer games which I felt was a waste of time that would only make my condition worse.
So to cure myself, I attempted to create a let’s play series on YouTube which to me was not as much as a waste of time as I’d be helping my YouTube channel grow and earning money while having fun. I started with the goal of making 10 minute episodes and by episode 6 onwards I was making episodes over an hour long and having so much fun that I’d think only 10 minutes had passed when in actual fact, 90 minutes had passed and I was almost entirely pain free.
So I’m “cured” of RSI in my hands, arms and shoulders (mostly) when using the computer but I must admit, I still can’t write with pen and paper for more than 15 minutes without feeling pain.
———————End Back Story—————
Now onto my main problem that’s still causing me so much suffering.... Backpain.
I first noticed my back pain at the age of 14 (I’m 24 now) when working small 3 hour shifts at McDonald’s. I never increased my hours due to needing to spend the rest of the day in bed after a 3 hour morning shift every Saturday. The pain wasn’t worth the $7 AUD per hour so I quit the job 8 months later.
Coming to now, 10 years later, I’ve noticed something very interesting about the pain, it only affects me and builds up when I’m not walking. In other words, I can go on a non-stop 10 kilometre/2 hour fast walk and be fine, no back pain at all 90% of the time. Yet if I try stand still in one spot for 1 minute, pain starts to build up and by 10 minutes it takes a full hour of laying in a firm bed to recover from the back pain. I can slightly increase my standing still time if I walk on the spot or shift my weight from leg to leg constantly, but this looks very rude and weird in public places.
This pain also affects me if I’m sitting with both feet on the ground (or hovering/not reaching the ground) and sitting up straight without something supporting my back or if I’m sitting in a hard church chair. Infact, the only way I can sit without pain is by placing one leg over the over and leaning back on a soft but firm support (office chair) or by sitting with both my feet on the chair with my knees bent and my heels touching my bum while my back leans hard against the backrest almost as if I was laying down in a bed.
What leads me to feel this is TMS though is the way I can simply look at a picture of people sitting on a rock or chair without a back support (like a bar stool) while I’m laying in a bed (the best position to have no back pain) and yet the moment I look at the image or even think about myself doing it, a tinkling feeling goes through my back and I start to feel the pain, as if I myself was actually sitting on the rock or stool without back support. At which point I’d have to look away from the image and take a minute or two to recover from the pain. And this pain is identical to what I usually experience when sitting or standing still without walking!
Another reason I think this is TMS, is the type of pain. It’s so unspecific in regards to area. A few weeks ago I picked up a baby chicken and, it must of been the way I held it, I suddenly couldn’t move and someone had to take the chicken away from me. I had a sharp pain that I could pinpoint and point to on my back and for 4 days I had to lay in bed to recover which experiencing the sharp pain with every tiny movement I made. It was a direct pain very different to my usual pain and my chiropractor told me it was a spasm.
My normal pain that I experience if I stand still (bending forward and doing something with my hands while standing still such as the dishes causes the pain to come in as little as 5 seconds and after 2 minutes be unbearable and require hours of recovery) is very unspecific. I couldn’t tell you where I’m sore and instead, I’d say the whole back because the whole thing, from top to bottom is sore and while it’s sore, my body has full range of movement (unlike that sharp pain that day) and can do anything, yet the pain is awful and doesn’t go away until I’ve laid down for a long time.
The important thing to note is that while I’m sore with the stand still induced pain, if I pretended I wasn’t sore, I could do everything I could do if I wasn’t sore, it’s just super intensely painful, constantly, yet movements don’t effect or increase or set off the pain at all. The pain is a hard to explain pain with a definite tingling feeling. It’s not like the sharp pain I could pinpoint that day that prevented me from moving properly.
The thing that’s making me think this isn’t TMS though is that fact that over the past 10 years I’ve seen countless professionals such as 3 chiropractors, 2 physios and a Bowen therapist that have all identified I have a lot of back problems, and yet, after all their treatment, no change, they have done all these back manipulations while I’ve laid down, they’ve given me exercises which I do daily and yet none of it works. I’ve got Scolosis, Kyphosis, forward neck syndrome, very poor posture, a bunch of weird problems with my spine that I can’t remember as my chiropractor has told me, one leg longer than the other, my knee on my right leg doesn’t match up with my ankle and thus to bend my knee forward I must turn my foot outwards, I wear orthotics due to foot problems... there’s tons of problems with me!
The reason I’m scared about thinking of TMS as a treatment is because, I actually have tons of problems, it’s not like I’ve been checked and my spine is perfect with no reason for pain etc, there is the potential that this is caused from physical deformaties and not my mind. In ignoring pain, I could actually make my problems worse. So I’m stuck, yet, with the walking thing, my chiropractor still can’t work out why I’m able to walk 10km without pain and yet even standing still for a minute causes me pain. There could be hope in the TMS theory here.... he still believes that “once I build core strength and improve posture, it could go away”. I’ve been seeing my current chiropractor for about 6 weeks.
So what do you guys think about this? I’m not asking you any specific questions, instead, I’m asking you to give your opinions so that I don’t trap you into answering what I’m asking rather than answering what you feel is important or pops out to you.
Thanks in advance for your answers
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