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Please help me trying to make sense of this all

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Mani, Dec 8, 2025.

  1. Mani

    Mani Peer Supporter

    For me it mainly happened after chronic stress and acoustic shock. The things that made me develop these are not relevant anymore. I'm open to the idea that there is other stuff to protect me from but I'm not quite sure what that would be — right now. I have felt like this pretty much happened because it happened. I got scared of sound because i got worse and i got worse because i got scared of sound.

    I just dont – yet – see a world where I have a wife and kids, get H symptoms but still remain calm. I would like to talk to people about this: how will i ever not be afraid that this will ruin my life in the future.
     
  2. Mani

    Mani Peer Supporter

    which i will.

    If i do in fact get better I wonder how im ever gonna grow independent of the outcome that worse symptoms bring. I would like some help with that.
     
  3. HealingNow

    HealingNow Peer Supporter

    Fear and anxiety, when you conquer those - wow what an awesome future person you can be! ♥️
     
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  4. BloodMoon

    BloodMoon Beloved Grand Eagle

    I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying here... Are you asking how are you going to deal with the return of any symptoms when you thought you had got better and lost them? Or are you concerned that when you lose symptoms, you'll be frightened of them returning? Or something else?
     
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  5. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    There’s no real way to do this work “wrong.” Just do it the best you can and it’s good enough to get you there.
     
  6. Mani

    Mani Peer Supporter

    I think a bit of both. Having another 1 year TMS break when ive finally got it together would destroy my life. Imagine I got a 1 yo baby and a wife and suddenly I cant partake in any activitities for one year, thatd be catastrophic.

    Perhaps its not worth it to think about it like that, but itd be good to consider. What if, when all my symptoms are gone, I get hit with a loud sound. Will I be able to just shrug my shoulders and say 'whatever' without catastrophizing? I dont know. Im not saying i wont be able to but I just think thats where ill need some outside help
     
  7. HealingNow

    HealingNow Peer Supporter


    I was in your position 2 months ago. The future was all I panicked about. Until I started living for today, TMS has helped me big time with that
     
  8. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    This is wonderful advice. I love it! And I will take it to heart. ❤️
     
  9. Mani

    Mani Peer Supporter

    How does one acquire this skill? Seriously
     
  10. BloodMoon

    BloodMoon Beloved Grand Eagle

    I know that it’s not easy when the mind keeps jumping to “what if”. Something that really helps me is using the STOP method. When I notice my thoughts starting to spiral, I literally tell myself “stop”, take a breath, and then switch my focus to a visualization. Sometimes I picture a calm place or imagine myself doing something ordinary but peaceful, like sitting outside in the sun. It doesn’t fix everything in the moment, but it breaks the spiral and brings me back to something steadier. Over time that’s made it easier to live more in the present.
     
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  11. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    You give it time.

    I went back and looked at your entries on this thread and it is clear that you are all over the place in a panic. You can not achieve any progress in this condition.

    I think your biggest problem is that you see yourself as a victim of TMS, and you are very attached to that idea.

    The truth about reality is that you will not recover as long as this idea is your addiction. And believe me, it IS an addiction, and in my observations, it is strongly associated with OCD, which is another form of addictive behavior.

    It's also a fact that you can't just throw away victimhood unless you have a healthy idea of yourself to take its place.

    It's actually just that simple in theory. Simple to say, but not easy to achieve.

    Personally, in my unqualified opinion, based only on years of observation here, I think you probably need professional psychotherapy. I know that you said you've tried it before, and you had some excuse why you gave it up. The right psychotherapist for you is going to be somebody who makes you uncomfortable and forces you to face things you do not want to talk about. If you can't be honest about accepting discomfort and examining things that scare you, then you will not recover.

    I noticed how many times you ask for somebody to talk to - that's why we pay therapists. It is not a quick process. There is no magic solution. It takes time and a willingness to stick with it and to accept extreme discomfort.
     
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  12. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    And oh yes: you absolutely must STOP all the "What If" and the "Yes, But" because each one of those is a rejection of the advice you have asked for and that you have received. It's time for you to practice Radical Acceptance.
     
  13. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    There’s this pattern I’ve noticed that almost everyone undergoes on the forum. You come in terrified. It takes a while to actually accept you have TMS. Then it takes a while longer to embrace that you could maybe get better. And it takes more time to accept that it’s going to take time and work to get better. Then you’re just mad that you’re not better. And after a while, sometimes even a year or more— you start to calm down and realize this is all doable, but it’s going to be difficult and it’s going to take time and a lot of work. And then —-you finally take a deep breath and you calm down. This takes time too! (See the common denominator here? Time!)

    How does anyone learn to live in the present moment? It’s a philosophical journey, a spiritual path. It’s a personal quest. Quests are not easy, but they’re so valuable. Embrace the quest, and you’ll embrace the present moment. It’s a big long process— And not for the faint of heart! (And, just in case you’re considering not taking the quest…. There’s actually no other way out of this. The more you fight it, the longer it’s going to take.)

    Also, if it’s any consolation… I’ve been through every single step that I listed above… So I know how you feel. I’m on the quest.
     
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  14. Mani

    Mani Peer Supporter

    What a judgemental and insensitive thing to say, completely unwarranted too. You have no idea about my life or who i am. Yes i have a ton of problems and ive never tried to run from them but this is so outrageously judgemental it honestly shocks with me.

    Why cant i be a victim? I was born half deaf with an iq in the 99.9th percentile, left to fend entirely for myself. Never got help from anyone, was bullied completely out of the regular living spaces in my own home, and have had ocd since forever. I have already told you about pocd striking at 6 yo. You should know better than just to tell me 'stop with the what ifs like that' im trying. Yet after all my hardship, everything ive been through, reaching to this point, where i have pretty much lost life, i still come here, to improve and to be genuine.

    I thought your first comment was already borderline rude but i appreciated is as the tough love ive usually liked. This however comes off way more judgemental and just completely out of touch. Okay, you can take offense at my fears and my problems, but just dont respond then.

    "You MUST stop the "what ifs"", how helpful, as if i havent heard that a million times already. As if when i was a 6 yo and crying all alone in my bed if only id known that. If only i knew that i wasnt actually dying of rabies. How incredibly helpful of you.

    I may grieve about the life that ive lost all i want. Ive been born with an incredibly tough set of traits -- most of which i have not yet spoken about -- and all these traits would add up to a suicide rate thousands of percentages higher than yours. Ive never been understood

    Being too tough is exactly why ive come here. I have always told myself to just simply ignore whatever and to man up. That has brought me here. When i got hyperacusis first the first thing i did was 'man up' this 'man up' that. I have realized i need to make changes, but they dont happen overnight. And yes, im still an incredibly anxious person, yet perfectly capable of giving and receiving love.

    Outrageous comments, youve been the only one coming at me back handed like this at the start. I wont let you take me out like this though. I will simply continue -- if only out of spite. I have been through way worse than Jan being rude and judgemental.

    I cant fucking go to a psychotherapist. I can no longer talk, as ive already told you a billion times. I'm here in my attic, have lost all the people around me, and coming here to your forum to improve myself. You should feel respected and perhaps give some respect back.
     
  15. Mani

    Mani Peer Supporter

    "you had some excuse that you gave it up" WOW if only you had the dignity to ask me what happened. I went for a year until i couldnt anymore. The last 6 months ive went with double ear pro whispering to her, just hoping to actually improve. I have really really really tried. I get that being here all day, at some point you get tired of all sorts of anxious people coming here. But that doesnt mean that you have to invalidate everything i say. And to scold at my honest attempts to improve. I have really always tried and ive also always been a victim of my own body. Can you imagine how easy life is when you simply dont really think all that much. I would take a 'make dumb' pill any day of the fucking week.

    I didnt even start about that, and neither did i tell you about me being half deaf which is another thing you have no idea how hard it is, especially in combination with hyper sensitivity (you know the thing that most if not all 'gifted' (yeah right) people experience. I can acknowledge my difficult set of traits and still try to make the best of it. I've been nothing but honest and kind to anyone here since ive come.
     
  16. Mani

    Mani Peer Supporter

    And ive very much appreciated your attempts to console me. You have been a very welcome visitor to my threads. I'm much grateful
     
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  17. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    I'm sorry, @Mani, I actually was not aware of the majority of issues you just described. I missed out on the fact that you can't talk. I don't know what pocd is because I'm not a medical person, but we know there is a long list of TMS conditions with acronyms. If you mentioned pocd previously along with other symptoms that we know are TMS, then I would have no reason to think it was anything else and no reason to look it up. I hope you understand that, because it seems important to you.

    I have to admit I've had a difficult time understanding a lot of what you write. Maybe it's a language difference and maybe I'm just too much older. These last posts are much more understandable, more informative, and much more clear to me.

    Message received, I apologize, and I'll stay away.
     
  18. Mani

    Mani Peer Supporter

    I really appreciate this reply and I would like to take this chance to acknowledge that i am incredibly anxious and that i understand that people may have issues with me Im just trying to find little pieces of hope that there is still some life left to save. My other option is going deaf through surgery. My qol would go up tenfold, but itd be forever and i think that id develop other tms symptoms anyway. I'm just really insecure about whats to come and really anxious to lose even more. I dont wanna go into details because i dont want to feed it but i have as of yet only really gotten worse. I'm just desperate
     
  19. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    @Mani
    You have had a tough life, my friend. And you’re still in it. For some reason, those who have it the worst just keep on getting more. I’ve had a hard life too. (Not a competition!) And yours puts mine to shame, it sounds like. My childhood was filled with neglect and some pretty severe abuse. There is a huge part of me that never seems to be able to shake feeling like a victim. (Because I was!) I even get mad when people on the forum say we have to stop being victims to get better. I say to myself: I’m alive and not dead ——(and I could be.) Does that count?

    I have to believe. I MUST believe, that there is hope for all of us. All of us. Including you. Don’t give up—ever. Don’t let this break you. I promise you I won’t either. You are going to get better. I can feel it in your determination.

    And yes… somehow… we have to stop being victimized by this TMS. We can out-bully our TMS and win.
     
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  20. Mani

    Mani Peer Supporter

    And to be honest. I'm not even gonna explain what pocd is because its so shameful but youre free to look it up. Its a subset of ocd so one could actually say its tms too. I wouldnt say its not, but i developed these things at a very young age. When i made my first list of symptoms it actually started at 4yo. Ive always had a melancholic feeling, my life was best when i was 0-2 yo and receiving love and attention. Thats what ive always felt and it makes sense now that i can look back on it.

    I was expecting you to ban me and now i feel bad for you, youre just trying to run your forum and help people. Maybe we can be friends later on:)
     
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