Pavlov dogs mechanism - getting crazy with globus

Filipe2025

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Hi,

It's been a while since I last posted here (just kidding).😜

As some of you know, this year I had all sort of TMS symptoms. Dizziness, atrial fibrillation, burning sensations all over my body, depression, head aches, despersonalization, insomnia, etc, but the most annoying, the one that started all this new TMS chapter in my life, it is still here, and that is the Globus hystericus. The sensation feels like I have a shweing gum stuck in my throat. It won't go away except for some very small periods.

I did all the exams, and don't have nothing blocking my throat, so I'm quite sure it is a muscle spasm, although when I try to relax the muscle tension in my faringe it doesn't feel any better.

I had the same thing with my arms, 17 years ago, when i discover TMS, but eventually It was easy to forgot it, but the problem is that when you feel a choking sensation, like globus, it is very difficult to forget it, because it affects your breathing.

So, let's just forget the TMS and emotions, and let's just focus on why the body seem to learn these strange nervous behaviours, the brain wiring.

My Globus started immediately after i look in the mirror and realised that my tooth fell down almost completely. That was the exact moment when the somatization begins. I look, saw that I didn't have the second molar in my mouth, panic, and the Globus started.

Now, how can I make my body forget it? How can I break this pattern? When I wake up, I don't feel this Globus, but then I remember it, after some minutes, and bingo! There it is. You need to breath, so you check if you feel your throat smothering you, or not. If it's not, if you don't feel something stuck in your throat, it sure starts. The "good" old globus came here to stay...

I believe it's the same mechanism as when a guy that is about to have sex, and thinks for merely some seconds "what if I lose my erection, now"?

There are guys that when are about to put a condom, have this same problem. They somehow connect The act of puting a condom to loosing erection . Why does your body seems to do what you are afraid of? It seem to do the opposite of what you want. It seems like your body works fine, but only if you catch him off guard. When you think about a certain annoying symptom like globus, it immediately come back, your body recreates it.

Like the pavlov dogs experience, that started salivating when they heard the bell ringing. In my case, my Globus starts and keeps on going every time I think about it, which is almost all day long, because it is an annoying, and it is related with something scary, that is, to lose your ability to breath and asfixiante

Thanks you.
 
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What you are describing is a conditioned response. I had this when I had migraine headaches and I was able to interrupt the conditioning by using the following technique. I used my logical, rational conscious brain to override the unconscious, illogical connection. Whenever I started feeling the very first signs of a headache coming, I would use logic to reason with my unconscious. I talked to my brain. I'd speak like a parent talking to a misbehaving child--firm, but not unkind. I'd say "There is no logical reason for me to have a headache. It's not necessary or needed. So just stop it, Brain! Stop it now!" Eventually this worked. I know it sounds overly simplistic, but it worked for me.

You have to get your higher, logical brain in charge of your life. You can do this.
 
What you are describing is a conditioned response. I had this when I had migraine headaches and I was able to interrupt the conditioning by using the following technique. I used my logical, rational conscious brain to override the unconscious, illogical connection. Whenever I started feeling the very first signs of a headache coming, I would use logic to reason with my unconscious. I talked to my brain. I'd speak like a parent talking to a misbehaving child--firm, but not unkind. I'd say "There is no logical reason for me to have a headache. It's not necessary or needed. So just stop it, Brain! Stop it now!" Eventually this worked. I know it sounds overly simplistic, but it worked for me.

You have to get your higher, logical brain in charge of your life. You can do this.
Thanks Ellen, what is difficult for me is the type of symptom. It's in a vital area.

I remember when I first have TMS, my elbows start snapping. Everytime I was distracted I start bending my elbows, to see if they still snap. If I was quickly enough , and somehow got my inner child off guarded, they didn't snap, but some seconds later, when my inner child got to know what I was doing, they stat snapping again and it would stay like that way no matter what I did. It's like if I had a small child inside me that is just trying to irritate me (🎶I can't hear you, I can't hear you. I do what I want. You are not my boss, you're not my boss...🎶).

How cant science for once say that there are actually two people inside of us... The father/mother and its spoiled child, with its many whims.
 
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