Would you say that the fact that painkillers (even narcotics) dont even touch the pain is a kind of a proof that the pain is TMS? I tries them all in the first months of TMS, but they didnt touch it, so I of course dont take them anymore. Yet, for a once in a blue moon tension headache one ibuprofen works like a charm. But no amount would ever work for my body aches. Similar experiences? I know I have TMS. I dont know, man, why I feel the need to keep gathering proof.