I've been doing all kinds of reading and completed the online cource on TMS wiki. It is intresting that after having quite a good amount of improvement and alot of learning and really starting to figure out the causes and triggers of my emotions and pain that when I really thought I was onto some of my problems my pain is coming back and not only in 1 spot but all the areas I've been having issues with the last 9 years. My back is what got me onto this website but before I had neck and shoulder pain, They all have come back and are kind of rotating around each day its something else. I am planning on going away on a surfing trip with my son toPuerto Rico in two weeks and It looks like this is having some effects on my pain. I think subconsiously there is something that is firing up some emotions about if iam going to be able to surf and hold up for 10 days. Surfing is my way of enjoyment and something I love to do. It is also something that has caused me alot of problems in the past with breaking my neck doing it 10 years ago and almost costing me my marriage 5 years ago. I realized as much as I love surfing it is also a area in my life that has caused me alot of stress. With such mixed emotions I feel this is whats causing my symptoms I will fight through this but was looking for any advice from the forum. Thanks JJsurfn
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Pain returning after 3 months of doing good
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Andy Bayliss
TMS Coach & Beloved Grand Eagle
Hi jjsurfin,
I think that you really have a great grip on what the roots to your flare-up is. Essentially TMS is caused by inner tension or conflicts. You have described strong inner conflicts about what lies directly ahead of you in time. If you acknowledge these conflicts, gently explore how the parts of you are fearful, desirous, feel guilty for doing what brings you joy ---all this will help you know these feelings without having to squash or change them. In my experience a tender recognition of our human condition, incorporating Dr. Sarno's theory brings relief.
Andy B
Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)
Beloved Grand Eagle
Hi, jjsurfin. You should consider yourself very fortunate that you have an activity like surfing that makes you happy. I suggest you focus your mind not any pain or worry about pain and think of the happiest times you have had surfing. And look forward to sharing your love of surfing with your son.
lexylucy
Well known member
When did the pain start? That is what I always ask myself. And what ELSE was happening.
It's very normal to have pain that is moving around.
Sometimes it helps me to remind myself at each moment I can check in with myself and see where I am at. We can only plan so much.
It's very normal to have pain that is moving around.
Sometimes it helps me to remind myself at each moment I can check in with myself and see where I am at. We can only plan so much.
Thanks eveyone for your responses its nice to know sometimes that others have been through what I'am going through now. I am already starting to feel better again and I realized that I had been putting some time frames on my pain and really wanting to feel better and enjoy my trip. Right now I really dont care any more and know I will have a good time just being in the warm weather and enjoying being with my family no matter how I feel. I really spent some time thinking about how much joy surfing gives me and I know I will be out there with my son having a good time and if I cant so be it. I ve really learned alot these past three months and know that I will be feeling good again and it amazes me everyday how our minds can control how we feel. Ive had some good weeks lately and some bad days here and there but I know I'am on the right track. Thanks
eskimoeskimo
Well known member
Hey lexylucy. Just wondering if here you mean what else was happening when the pain originally started, or what else was happening when a new episode or new escalation in pain started? Or both? Thanks
lexylucy
Well known member
Yes. 
What else was happening when the pain originally started. By the grace of Allah (Buddha?) my original pain is gone
So for me I hunker down immediately if I get a new surge, which in this case was yesterday. I begin to ask myself what ELSE was going on other than "I pulled my leg wrong, or picked this up, or ate this." What else was happening-----psychologically, emotionally, spiritually. Dig?
In the case of the surfer I was also suggesting - hey instead of planning 10 days of surfing or having the best time of your life - why not see how you feel when you get there and try surfing - in the moment - breathing - and checking in with yourself. You might just have a good time.
But it looks like he's doing pretty rad already And looking forward to the warm weather and the warmth of family and friends.
Miss L.L.
What else was happening when the pain originally started. By the grace of Allah (Buddha?) my original pain is gone
So for me I hunker down immediately if I get a new surge, which in this case was yesterday. I begin to ask myself what ELSE was going on other than "I pulled my leg wrong, or picked this up, or ate this." What else was happening-----psychologically, emotionally, spiritually. Dig?
In the case of the surfer I was also suggesting - hey instead of planning 10 days of surfing or having the best time of your life - why not see how you feel when you get there and try surfing - in the moment - breathing - and checking in with yourself. You might just have a good time.
But it looks like he's doing pretty rad already
And looking forward to the warm weather and the warmth of family and friends. Miss L.L.
eskimoeskimo
Well known member
Yes.
What else was happening when the pain originally started. By the grace of Allah (Buddha?) my original pain is gone
So for me I hunker down immediately if I get a new surge, which in this case was yesterday. I begin to ask myself what ELSE was going on other than "I pulled my leg wrong, or picked this up, or ate this." What else was happening-----psychologically, emotionally, spiritually. Dig?
In the case of the surfer I was also suggesting - hey instead of planning 10 days of surfing or having the best time of your life - why not see how you feel when you get there and try surfing - in the moment - breathing - and checking in with yourself. You might just have a good time.
But it looks like he's doing pretty rad already
Miss L.L.
Hey LL, thanks for clarifying. All very helpful.