So like most of us I've tried quite a few techniques to try and overcome this malady. Basically, for quite awhile I had the plan of not fighting TMS, just living my life and letting it run its course. One can try to hard to overcome TMS and since I had finished all the ground work I figured it would finally go away on its own. It think it's a valid tactic since letting the pain rule your life. So I've been fed up lately because I had pretty much give up playing the piano since it makes my back hurt and I've been too depressed to feel like playing music anyway. After moving though, I decided to start playing again. It takes a little less than 15 minutes for my back to start hurting and once it starts usually only getting some sleep will cure it. So although I was content for some time I had to realize that my strategy was not working and that I was still in a rut. I've also been taking Kratom daily for back pain at work and since playing the piano again the pain has increased and the kratom is not as efffective any more. I decided that since I have the symptoms of fibromyalgia, perhaps this is a condition separate from TMS because there are a lot of people on this site that are stuck like I am. You get better to a certain point and stay there. You can cope with the pain, but it is still robbing you of your life. So doing some research on fibromyalgia I see alot of similar traits in that doctors don't know what causes it, how to test for it, or how to cure it. It has a history of different names and for what ever reason mostly women have it (or most likely mostly women are diagnosed with it, or women have the emotional traits that make one susceptible to the condition). Another commonality is the cure 'protocols' that doctors or others have developed. Some patients see fantastic results while others reap no benefits and end up out of a lot of time and money. So, sure Sarno would say the ones these protocols work for are cured for the placebo effect. And I'd say he's probably right. But here on this site we have the same issue. Some are cured while others linger on. Is it simply the placebo effect curing the TMS patients that accept it with enough faith? All I know at this point is I have a daily pain/fatigue problem with no known cure or cause. There's worth things to be stricken with, but as Sarno once said, most of his patients would rather be parlized because even paralyzed people can learn to adapt to their situation and live fulfilling lives. TMS or whatever you want to call it robs you of your life and makes you a slave in your own body.