This and he isnt real tender in the normal places like upper trapezious muscles, etc. I think he may likely have TMS. His back issues dominate his life and thoughts; he is always concerned about it going out and gets up and stretches every 20 minutes; we cant even go to movies anymore and he limits all kinds of activities with like traveling, things like square dancing that he used to enjoy. He has a TMS personality in the sense he is fearful of his back going out and is perfectionistic about this, but not perfectionistic in other ways; definitely a goodist and analyzer big time. He seems to be very in control of his emotions, a stoic. He is fairly certain it isnt TMS, that his back going out is structural. (no bad MRI's or anything just from his experience) He has had other mind body symptoms over the years (acid reflux as a teen before back began going out), also heart palpitations, non-confrontational diplomatic temperment, much more of a thinker vs feeler. Introverted. I dont see him express emotions in a raw way much; there seems to be a good amount of internal control over what he feels. When I bring up TMS with him he doesnt buy it. My questions are these.... 1) If anyone has a similar presentation where back goes out but without much pain (but where you are in bed or severely limited in activity for days after) I'd love to her your story and maybe forward to him. 2) Do you guys think he has it? 3) How can I possibly get him to see this? It's such a weight on me because he suffers so much from his back stuff. I'm his only son; I hate to see him suffer. He is 66 years old; so he could possibly have a good 20 or 30 years ahead of him; but this back stuff or TMS or whatever it is is the bane of his existence. It depressed him more than he realizes (I think) I hate to see him suffer with this; but as of now he rejects the TMS model as it applies to himself.