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Day 15 Moving symptoms - new symptoms

Discussion in 'Structured Educational Program' started by Rubineo, Sep 2, 2015.

  1. Rubineo

    Rubineo New Member

    Good morning!

    Coming to the questions to ponder of day 15. I tried to answer them - not really easy. Especially the second part. I´m not really sure where I am concerning my belief.

    During the past two weeks has your pain been moving around?

    Yes. It has been moving around through the whole body. Starting with neck, shoulder and arm pain on the left side. Then it moved to the right side and came back again. When I decided that this was clearly TMS it got better and better. Then it moved again into my right leg and the foot directly before I wanted to start into my holidays. During the holidays it changed agein back to neck pain. All of that changed after the holidays to an incredible foot and toe pain in my left foot – a completely new symptom.

    How has this affected your belief in the diagnosis?

    The moving symptoms strengthened my belief in the diagnosis. I was really doing well with that and my fear and preoccupation decreased. Until the moment when the new symptom started. The thing with my foot is not clear to me up to now. I´m still looking for structural reasons – even if I know deep inside that it could be TMS.

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  2. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi, Christian. It looks to me like your pain is moving around because that is typical of the subconscious until you discover the emotional causes of your pain and especially because you still have some doubt that the pain is not emotional but structural. This is not easy for most of us to believe 100 percent but it is essential in healing. I suggest you adopt a mantra to convince yourself in TMS: "My pain is from emotional causes, not structural.

    Eric Watson, who posts on the wiki as Herbie, wrote some longer thoughts on Dr. Sarno's 12 Daily reminders that will be helpful to you:

    Herbie’s Extended Version of Dr. Sarno’s 12 DAILY REMINDERS

    1. The pain is due to TMS. This is real pain or anxiety but its caused by subconscious tensions and triggers, stressors and traits to your reactions and fears and also when at boiling point your conscious tension can and does cause real pain too.
    2. The main reason for the pain is mild oxygen deprivation. This means that when you get in pain or in anxiety then the the blood is restricted from going to your lower back for instance. The blood being restricted causes oxygen deprivation which causes the pain - remember, where theirs no oxygen then there is pain in the body. Also, The pain stays because of fear and focus to physical organic symptoms and repressions.
    3. TMS is a harmless condition caused by my REPRESSED EMOTIONS so even though you think you can harm yourself from the years of pain you have felt and how you feel in general -- so far no reports have been heard from tms healing knowledge causing damage to anyone, it only helps.
    4. The principle emotion is your repressed ANGER -- this means under your consciousness lies something that happens automatically to everyone. Tmsers have repressions that are stored because of our personality traits,traumas, stressors, fears, strain, etc... When these stored repressions build and build then eventually they cause the brain to send pain into your body to keep you from having an emotional crises. The mind-body thinks its helping you.
    5. TMS exists to DISTRACT your attentions from the emotions, stressors, tensions and strains of your personality traits because if you can get distraction then you wont have to be in emotional turmoil. When you don't face and feel your emotions and they get repressed cause you didn't want to deal with something -- they are just adding up in this beaker, ready to pour over and create real pain and anxiety in your body.
    6. Since my body is perfectly normal, there is nothing to fear. So in reality when I fear the pain or anxiety I just cause myself undo strain and tension adding to the beaker of pain. If I fear then I feed the pain, If I fear Its impossible to recondition. Fear keeps the pain and anxiety alive in the body through focus.
    7. Therefore, physical activity is harmless.If I want to work against the pain I could but its better to lose some of the pain so when I start my life over I=t have to be in pain trying to heal cause facing the repressions and all the other activities that cause the pain and reversing my fear and focus to them then I can heal.
    8. I am resuming all normal physical activity. I don't fear moving anymore. I believe in my bodies ability to heal now. I can move how I want. I will not fear moving with a bent back anymore. I will also practice going out and acting normal again, not in fear of what pain might do to me.
    9. The pain is unimportant and powerless. Its only power is how its hidden -- its illusion, Its fear.
    10. I will keep my attention on the emotional issues. I will think about my emotions and feel my emotions throughout the day. I will not judge, criticize or fear my emotions. I will not run from my emotional issues but face everyone of them. I will feel my emotions fully and cry if I need to. Then I will release the emotion and get my mind and thoughts back to my life and living in the present, in flow.
    11. I am in control of all of this. This is how I recover.
    12. I will be thinking PSYCHOLOGICALLY AT ALL TIMES. This means I will keep my thoughts on psychological issues like happiness, fear and anger -- traits and triggers, conditioning and journaling. The science behind mind-body/tms healing, etc.... This way I will not feed my thoughts to the body -- that is a trick of tms. Tms will always try to get me to focus on the body caused by the pain until I break its show and flair. When I get my attention off psychical symptoms and on emotional issues and psychological issues then I will not feed the fear of the physical issues anymore thus making the tms of no effect. This will in return, give us the cure.
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  3. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    ...which came completely out of the blue with no plausible cause - unless that cause is... TMS!

    This, of course, is absolutely classic TMS.

    Don't ever forget that all pain is created in the brain. This is a scientific fact. We think that pain is a danger message sent by the nerves located at some injured body part, but in reality, pain at the site of an injury can't happen until the brain receives the danger message from the nerves. It then creates and sends back the pain warning.

    This means that your brain is perfectly capable of creating a pain warning on its own. It does this when it thinks that something horrible will happen if you become aware of a negative emotion:eek: As you do the work to uncover and examine those negative emotions, you brain will fight back. It does this by creating a brand-new pain to worry and distract you.

    This means you are getting somewhere! This is cause to celebrate! dancea
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  4. Rubineo

    Rubineo New Member

    Good morning!

    I really had good times the last weeks - until last Sunday. Since then I´m experiencing - again - new symptoms, which seem to increase from day to day.

    I was almost 100% sure that all my pain and symptoms was in fact TMS. No more lyme disease, no more unknown illnesses, no more doubts. Last Sunday had the best day fro the last years, I was active, enjoying the day and the evening together with my wife and then...Monday morning.

    Lower back pain, numbness in my right leg, weakness. And since this weekend on top again a weak right arm. Which had disappeared completely. That makes me really angry and I really cannot understand, why that shit is coming back again.

    I feel that I urgently need some support in order not to loose the battle against that TMS.

  5. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    Remember The Carpenters' old song, "Rainy Days and Mondays Always Get Me Down" ?

    You may just be having a gloomy Monday. Keep your mind focused on how great you felt on the weekend. Try not to be angry that your TMS battle is not going well today. It will pass.

    It's a cloudy day here in Chicago today, so I feel I have the Monday blues or blahs. I'm trying to think sunshine.

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