Is your body your enemy?

[TG957]

This is so confusing. I always thought of the body as non intellectual. I wonder how the body knows what and when is enough. How does it decide to send signals of pain? All the processing is done by the brain as far as I understand basic biology. Oh dear, this is taking me places I haven’t even began to process.

Is your brain a body or a mind? Can your thoughts exist without your body that feeds the brain? The best analogy is probably a computer. Body is hardware, mind is software. Brain is a physical entity powered by nutrients, hormones, electrical signals (neurons), thoughts are electric signals projected onto your brain. Brain (hardware) generates signals of pain and feeds into your software, which produces pain signals onto the screen that your mind (software) recognizes.

 

[Cactusflower]

Your brain is an organ, just like your liver or spleen!

 

[mikeinlondon]

Ok, so that’s why we say Mind Body Syndrome and not Brain Body Syndrome. So the brain is part of the body like all other organs. So, healing is the unification of the mind (software) with all the organs and nervous system (hardware). I think I got it. Silly question, is the mind just part of the brain or is the mind co located in various organs including the nervous system? Can someone define “mind” from a TMS perspective? I have always used the terms brain and mind synonymously.

 

[JohnDellatto]

I consider the mind and brain to be the same thing because to me the brain is the thing doing everything, but according to google ai the mind is the abstract mental processes of the brain. I looked this up the other day cause I saw a Sam miller video talking about how the brain and mind are different. I’m not really into the psychology of those videos (ego, self) and don’t think neuroscientists even delve into any of that but I could be wrong.

 

[mikeinlondon]

I consider the mind and brain to be the same thing because to me the brain is the thing doing everything, but according to google ai the mind is the abstract mental processes of the brain. I looked this up the other day cause I saw a Sam miller video talking about how the brain and mind are different. I’m not really into the psychology of those videos (ego, self) and don’t think neuroscientists even delve into any of that but I could be wrong.

Indeed, the brain is the organ, the mind is the “life” part of the brain. That’s how I see it. The mind, as I understand it, only exists within the brain. The mind communicates with the body via the cables known as the nervous system. It’s my working assumption that the nervous system and body do not have an intelligence centre. All the intelligence work is managed and coordinated by the brain/mind.

 

[Diana-M]

I really wanted to start a new post on this topic, but the platform is sluggish and won’t let me. This thread touches on my topic. How does “allowing” work? Today I watched another Sam Miller video (the mindful gardener on YouTube), and I had a good revelation about pain/symptoms. It’s like what @freduccini said:

you start appreciating better the symptoms as the moment when your nervous system is cleaning the house.

Here’s what I got from Sam’s video:

My notes:

You have experienced multiple traumatic events in your past that never got processed to help you heal. You weren’t able to feel and release what happened. Instead, they were stored in the body and stuck there.

Your body knows when you are strong enough to take this completion process.

If you are having symptoms, your body thinks you can handle it and it tries to complete what never got completed in the past, a little at a time.

If you interfere in any way during this process (pain/symptoms) with fear, analysis—even soothing— you send your brain the message that it is dangerous. Then, your brain doesn’t complete the process and it will come back stronger the next time.

If you allow—TOTALLY don’t react to the pain/symptoms, stay completely out of its way, it will complete the process.

The pain/symptom will subside when the process completes. And one more drop in your allostatic load is gone.

It will repeat until the load diminishes completely. And then you won’t have pain anymore on a regular basis.

Triggers are good because they bring on these healing episodes. They are good for you.

Conclusion: When you have pain, trust that you are healing. Don’t be afraid, just let it pass. This will repeat itself over and over until you are completely healed.

This allowing process is starting to make some sense for me, personally. But I imagine it’s controversial. I’m in the trial phase right now.

 

[Joulegirl]

Isn't that what Claire Weeks says? To allow the feelings to pass through you? It makes sense. It's just so hard to do!

 

[Diana-M]

Isn't that what Claire Weeks says? To allow the feelings to pass through you? It makes sense. It's just so hard to do!

Yes, she says the same thing, but for slightly different reasons. Claire says to accept the feelings, float and let time pass. She says this to keep you from getting more adrenaline so that your nervous system can heal. Sam says to do it so that your body can complete the process of healing from trauma without being interrupted…. You are right it is extremely hard to do!

 

[feduccini]

Isn't that what Claire Weeks says? To allow the feelings to pass through you? It makes sense. It's just so hard to do!

I've never read but I imagine it's one of the premises of The Body Keeps The Score. Emotions are not allowed to be felt and then they keep stuck in the body, which with time become a myriad of mindbody symptoms.