Is there an end to TMS symtoms?

[monica-tms]

If this helps: my first TMS recovery took 2 years and laser focus on this effort. My second one was about a month and a minor effort. You become mindful of your emotions and behavior, so it doesn't get bad. It is like learning every new skill.

It did, thank you. So in your daily life, you don’t really notice any symptoms? Only during stressful periods? And during those periods, you now know how to tackle it all, so it doesn’t get bad again? I’m just trying to picture how a “recovered life” feels like… lol. Sorry for all those questions.

I’m aware that it might be different for everyone.

 

[TG957]

It did, thank you. So in your daily life, you don’t really notice any symptoms? Only during stressful periods? And during those periods, you now know how to tackle it all, so it doesn’t get bad again? I’m just trying to picture how a “recovered life” feels like… lol. Sorry for all those questions.

I’m aware that it might be different for everyone.

I suggest that you read the book I wrote about my recovery. Incidentally, I am running a promotion on the Kindle edition, so it is free until September 21: https://www.amazon.com/Defying-Verdict-Defeated-Chronic-Pain-ebook/dp/B0834Q46SM/ (Amazon.com)

This will save me a lot of time typing my responses here.

 

[Khetu]

It did, thank you. So in your daily life, you don’t really notice any symptoms? Only during stressful periods? And during those periods, you now know how to tackle it all, so it doesn’t get bad again? I’m just trying to picture how a “recovered life” feels like… lol. Sorry for all those questions.

I’m aware that it might be different for everyone.

Just chiming in here with my experience, it took me 2 years to recover from my first symptoms in 2020 (unable to use my hands due to pain) and after that, it took around a month to knock the following symptoms back like whack-a-mole. Now it takes a few days, less when I actually sit down and do the work, which during a busy life can be hard to clear time for.
Not only have I come to the realisation I've had TMS my entire life and didn't know it, but it is very easy to pinpoint when it will show up again for me personally. It's always stress. I can go months and months and be normal, then something bad will happen, it can be death, a breakup, or even someone annoying me at work: then just like clockwork, the symptoms will start the next day. It's so rote now, it feels weird when TMS doesn't show up after a stressful period.

I consider myself as recovered as possible, and I've come to terms this is a game I will play with my brain for the rest of my life. But it's so normal it just becomes a little irritation for a few days, like an insect bite, and then it goes away. It doesn't stop me from living like it used to. In fact, since discovering TMS and learning how to cope with it, I've achieved more in the last 5 years and conquered more things I'm afraid of than ever. It's made me a more resilient person!

 

[BloodMoon]

@monica-tms Occasional, manageable symptoms after recovery rather than a return of chronic, disabling pain and/or other symptoms — is considered typical in mind–body/TMS recovery communities and published recovery accounts. For example, off the top of my head, I can immediately think of at least 6 forum members that I know of who come back to post on these forums to help others, who consider themselves to be recovered, but who say that they have symptoms on occasion; one of them calls such symptoms "a tickle". Mind/body coaches Dan Buglio and Helmut (aka The Mindful Gardener) have also said that they experience very occasional symptoms, but they know what's causing them and what to do about them, and therefore those symptoms come and then go relatively quickly and don't become chronic.

Buglio is always talking about "clarity"... the clarity is about not doubting that the symptoms are mind/body and knowing that dealing with and experiencing 'lifey' stuff does not have to cause symptoms (in truly knowing and believing that, the brain realises that it's not fooling you and/or that you are not actually in any danger and lets go so much more easily). When you're angry and/or fearful the brain tends to and tries to go back to how it used to deal with difficult situations, but it can't do that fully if you respond by recognising/knowing that it's just up to its old tricks again. Lately, when I get a new symptom I call it out and repeatedly say to my brain "don't be ridiculous' and by the next day it's gone. (I am still working on challenging older symptoms with mind/body work though, but my brain is very gradually releasing its ingrained-pattern grip to the extent that I've gone from being bed bound and house bound to functioning pretty well by comparison these days.)

 

[monica-tms]

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and insights. I feel I understand it a bit better now, and it gives me hope for a better future

 

[CharlieEvans180]

Just chiming in here with my experience, it took me 2 years to recover from my first symptoms in 2020 (unable to use my hands due to pain) and after that, it took around a month to knock the following symptoms back like whack-a-mole. Now it takes a few days, less when I actually sit down and do the work, which during a busy life can be hard to clear time for.
Not only have I come to the realisation I've had TMS my entire life and didn't know it, but it is very easy to pinpoint when it will show up again for me personally. It's always stress. I can go months and months and be normal, then something bad will happen, it can be death, a breakup, or even someone annoying me at work: then just like clockwork, the symptoms will start the next day. It's so rote now, it feels weird when TMS doesn't show up after a stressful period.

I consider myself as recovered as possible, and I've come to terms this is a game I will play with my brain for the rest of my life. But it's so normal it just becomes a little irritation for a few days, like an insect bite, and then it goes away. It doesn't stop me from living like it used to. In fact, since discovering TMS and learning how to cope with it, I've achieved more in the last 5 years and conquered more things I'm afraid of than ever. It's made me a more resilient person!

LOVE IT

 

[Mr Hip Guy]

I consider myself as recovered as possible, and I've come to terms this is a game I will play with my brain for the rest of my life. But it's so normal it just becomes a little irritation for a few days, like an insect bite, and then it goes away. It doesn't stop me from living like it used to. In fact, since discovering TMS and learning how to cope with it, I've achieved more in the last 5 years and conquered more things I'm afraid of than ever. It's made me a more resilient person!

Nice way to put it.

In the movie The Matrix, the Oracle directs Neo to a latin phrase over her Kitchen door:

"Temet nosce"

It's a latin term for "Know thyself." Discovering TMS and the methods for dealing with it has been a great discovery in my life, and has led me to know myself better in ways I had never imagined before. It feels like blinders are lifted off. It's not exactly like taking the Red Pill, but it's pretty darn close.

 

[feduccini]

I am still in the early stages of recovery, and as someone new to this process I find it daunting, when you say that this will be endless.

It is daunting, a hell of a curve ball life throws at us. But think it this way, the medical system is more and more talking about an epidemic of chronic pain. There's a vast number of people with debilitating conditions being sent from doctor to doctor, losing hope and money, getting addicted to drugs that help less than a placebo. TMS is not a matter of the universe being mean to us. It's a pretty common condition the medical system refuses to acknowledge, and coincidently make millions with it.

We're the ones who were lucky enough to learn about it and brave enough to deal with our own responsibility to a hard process of healing.

TMS recovering people are very strong, they just don't see it because they're used to carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders.

 

[JanAtheCPA]

@Khetu!

 

[Adam Coloretti (coach)]

I've discovered TMS and this website 3 years ago when I was suffering from terrible headaches. After following the program and journaling my headaches went away. After few weeks, I started experiencing muscle twitching ... started journaling and reading Dr Sarno books and although it never went away completely it got much better. And until now its still continuing.... every few weeks or every few months, another symtom starts. Is there ever an end to it? Any way to "cure" yourself COMPLETELY from getting these physical symtoms for good?

There absolutely is a road to this assuming TMS!

As CactusFlower said, it is about the chronicity of it all. I have been chronic pelvic and back pain free for close to 2 years, with nothing. Two weeks ago, I experienced urgency for the first time (I'd never had bladder symptoms), so it freaked me out a bit at first. But two weeks later (now), it is basically gone. Why? Because I know the TMS protocol and what to do. If this happened to me 10 years ago, it may have turned into a chronic condition for 10+ years. To me, I am completely cured from chronic symptoms, if something comes up (and now it is few and far between, it took 2 years maybe the next one will be in 10 years time, maybe never) I deal with it and I know how to make it short term and not chronic.

Please feel free to ask me more questions

 

[cloud]

There absolutely is a road to this assuming TMS!

As CactusFlower said, it is about the chronicity of it all. I have been chronic pelvic and back pain free for close to 2 years, with nothing. Two weeks ago, I experienced urgency for the first time (I'd never had bladder symptoms), so it freaked me out a bit at first. But two weeks later (now), it is basically gone. Why? Because I know the TMS protocol and what to do. If this happened to me 10 years ago, it may have turned into a chronic condition for 10+ years. To me, I am completely cured from chronic symptoms, if something comes up (and now it is few and far between, it took 2 years maybe the next one will be in 10 years time, maybe never) I deal with it and I know how to make it short term and not chronic.

Please feel free to ask me more questions

Very hopeful!
It is always a bit difficult for me to restart the process.I always try to recall the exact moment that I "turned the key" back in 2013.And I do remember it, but now Ithink that it is harder for me to do so.