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Is pain real or all in your head?

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Abundance72, Aug 2, 2014.

  1. Abundance72

    Abundance72 Peer Supporter

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  2. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Thank you for the post, I will take a look :)
     
  3. Tennis Tom

    Tennis Tom Beloved Grand Eagle

    Good find, here's a great TMS'y line from the article:


    "So the next time you find yourself battling chronic pain or a bad back, before you run to your physical therapist — take a long and hard look at your life. Are you suffering from the loss of something valuable in your life or are you genuinely physically hurt?"
     
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  4. Forest

    Forest Beloved Grand Eagle

    Great article.

    Another great line is, "how you react to the pain makes all the difference." Exactly. Don't let it distract you! Let it roll off you like water off a duck's back.

    The specific approach, based on pain science and nerve pathways, seems similar to the following video, also very interesting: The Role of the Brain in Chronic Pain.
     
  5. njoy

    njoy aka Bugsy

    As I've probably said before, I had a couple of occasions when I just accepted severe pain and it vanished. Not TMS pain, either, but 2 very real abscessed teeth. Not saying that would work for everyone (although I'd be surprised) and also not saying it's easy to accept pain since the natural urge is to rage and tantrum against our fate as in "Why is this happening to poor me!" Anyway, that's my nature and acceptance worked for me.

    Maybe physical pain is a warning that needs to be heard and dealt with and let go. Resentment doesn't work.
     
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  6. Forest

    Forest Beloved Grand Eagle

    Acceptance has worked wonders for me. suffering = pain + resistance.
     
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  7. njoy

    njoy aka Bugsy

    Now, if I could just accept these bird mites!
     
  8. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

    njoy,

    Maybe if you name them and think of them as pets--pets you are fostering, not keeping forever. :)
     
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  9. njoy

    njoy aka Bugsy

    Ellen, I'd have to number them sequentially and a) I'd never remember which one is # 67 let alone who's # 1, 222,434, and b) I can't count higher than the millions because, being Canadian, I have trouble keeping my British billions separate from my American billions.:D

    Actually, I still don't know for sure if this bug infestation is pure, unadulterated TMS or if there is a reality of bugs involved that the TMS is using. Anyway, I'm off to the psychiatrist (I actually know the guy, he worked with some of my foster kids, and he's great) to see what he thinks and what he suggests. Meanwhile the last of my oxazapam (I was given 100 in 1998 so I'm not exactly a big user) is disappearing one tablet a night so I can get a few hours sleep. It's weird how nights for "bird mites" are much worse than days. Same with my anxiety. I hate to think of the thousands of people out there madly washing all their clothes and bedding every day and wiping down their walls with bleach and spraying themselves with orange oil and poofing diatomaceous earth in all the cracks and crannies (and on and on and on) ALL FOR NOTHING.

    But if much of the problem is pure TMS-induced anxiety then they need to know that. Few will believe it but what's new about that, eh? I feel a sub-forum coming on, lol. (just kidding, Forest).
     
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  10. njoy

    njoy aka Bugsy

    Abundance, I love that article. Dr. Sarno may not yet be properly appreciated for his groundbreaking work but his ideas are spreading whether or not people know his name. Thanks so much for posting!
     
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  11. Forest

    Forest Beloved Grand Eagle

    It'll be set up before you can say "psychogenic infestation."
     
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  12. njoy

    njoy aka Bugsy

    Forest, I think I prefer delusions of infestation. Psychogenic just doesn't sound as much fun. :smug:

    My husband came up with:

    Oh yes, there's bugs on us
    Yes, there's bugs on us
    There may not be bugs on some of youse mugs
    But there's many many bugs on us!
     
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