Is Fibro a Real Disease

Mermaid said:
For some people Lyrica is a dangerous poison. This is the first time I've been in contact with anyone who has shared this experience. I was made to feel like a crazy person by my doctor, who insisted that this medication was safe and could not be the cause of the strange side effects I had, even though they were listed on the information sheet which comes in the box ! bangheada

Some of them were very embarrasing, the memory lapses drove me crazy. The emotional blunting and suicidal depression in withdrawal were no fun either, but I always had a little voice deep inside telling me that it was false and I would eventually be OK, which of course I am.

I was polydrugged to within an inch of my life, never, ever again !! armscrosseddenial
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I feel everything your saying mermaid. Your speaking from your heart. That's my exact words too. Never again.
Bless You Mermaid and thank you for your great wisdom, you have become a hero.
 
Steve Ozanich said:
I think he kept saying 'fibro is real' to help ease people who were being accused of imaginary fairy dust. But if he was implying that fibro was a body problem then he's a whacknut. Too many people have healed from fibro after finding TMS. Trauma no doubt is a huge instigator.
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It still makes me baffled Steve when I know the "Powers that be" are not going to tell anyone the truth until the cat is just all of the way out of the Bag. It seems that they are going to sell and push and campaign until society finally learns that it really is stress and stress has to have another approach ya know. It's crazy that this is how we thought too before we learned the truth. Wow the way lifes teachings can hinder us and hold us back or teach us and propel us forward. o_O
 
Walt Oleksy said:
Mermaid, I think you're wonderful. That doctor ought to lose his license to practice.
Thank God you know about TMS and had the courage to recover from the Lyrica.

Birdie, I hope you're better and don't need anything anymore.

I cringe when I see a tv commercial about medications. Most have disclaimers that
the medication could cause side affects worse than the reason for taking them,
including suicide or death.
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Thanks Walt, you're very kind. :happy:
 
North Star said:
Mermaid, your story is not only a cautionary tale of the horrific dangers of the Rxs, it is inspirational. I am SO glad you're doing so well. You inspire me on my healing journey.
Love and hugs from across the pond!
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Hi North Star,

Thanks for your good wishes. We'll all get totally past this you know, it just takes the patience of a saint ! :rolleyes:

I'm not 100% yet, but I don't care. I know it will come, and I'm not afraid anymore, so it doesn't matter when it happens.

Keep on, keepin' on :D
 
Hi all,

Strangely I'd never even heard of fibromyalgia till I discovered TMS, but ever since I've heard about it on the news over here. Most of you are probably not familiar with "NHS Choices" but it's the website here that doctors recommend you look at if you want to learn more about a condition that you suffer from. So many people on there sound like they suffer from TMS... and it sounds to me just like when I had ME too, years ago. It all seems to be the same thing. I feel really sorry for some of the people posting on the Choices website, do they need to discover TMS?

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Fibromyalgia/Pages/Introduction.aspx
 
I was also diagnosed with fibromyalgia. What a joke!! I think it was because the doctor could not figure out what was wrong with me. I did turn out to have a condition called hyperparathyroidism that could have been causing some of my problems. It is an easy condition to fix and I had minor surgery for it in 2012. However, there is no question that most of my pain issues were TMS related. When I addressed the TMS, I greatly improved.

So to answer your question, NO, it is not a real disease. I think that anyone who accepts a fibromyalgia diagnosis is doing themselves a big dis-service. I also belonged to a fibromyalgia health forum and I tried to tell people that this is actually TMS in disguise. They just would not listen and were so nasty to me that I left the forum for good. I think a lot of these people are losers who need an excuse for their failures in life. TMS'ers are people who take responsibility for their own physical and mental health, instead of demanding that someone else "fix" them. You know, the hardest thing to do in life is to take a realistic look at yourself an admit that this is actually YOU doing this to YOU and that we must learn to manage our own minds.
 
Just to add to the evidence - my sister was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and healed after discovering Dr. Sarno. She used to ask her husband to yell at her, "It's all in your head!" (I am guessing that was therapeutic for both her and her husband!) A few years later, I developed all of the same symptoms and was contemplating going to the doctor for a diagnosis after months of pain when I recalled my sister was healed; I took the TMS approach and the widespread, chronic pain disappeared in about 6 weeks.
 
There was a great article where Dr. Sarno discusses Fibro. He basically says it is 100% TMS. And he shoots the "self proclaimed experts" on it in the foot. Does anyone remember that? I have searched Google without results, but I distinctly remember it being posted.
 
Kenny found it for me. Here it is
“Over six million Americans suffering from a mysterious and excruciatingly painful ailment called “fibromyalgia” are being treated by an army of self-minted specialists, not one of whom has a clue as to what causes the disorder”
Dr. John Sarno “The Divided Mind”
 
happygal said:
Just to add to the evidence - my sister was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and healed after discovering Dr. Sarno. She used to ask her husband to yell at her, "It's all in your head!" (I am guessing that was therapeutic for both her and her husband!) A few years later, I developed all of the same symptoms and was contemplating going to the doctor for a diagnosis after months of pain when I recalled my sister was healed; I took the TMS approach and the widespread, chronic pain disappeared in about 6 weeks.
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I love this post happygal, congratulations. :) I would love to hear more of your story.
 
And yet, day after day, I'm being bombarded by Stanford University with advertisements looking for people between the ages of 21 and 65 who've had temporary "back pain" that appeared then subsequently disappeared. $500 bucks to participate in a 6-week "study". What they're attempting to identify is some structural or biochemical variable leading to onset and disappearance of back pain symptoms within the group being polled. Only problem is none of this is directed toward identifying psychological variables, like Holmes-Rahe life stress events, that preceded the onset of lower lumbar pain. What they're trying to find is some chemical or surgical "silver bullet" that can be used to eradicate those symptoms. That whole Stanford Pain Management department will do anything but admit that such things as lower lumbar pain or so-called "fibromyalgia" might be primarily psychological in origin. In fact, they're spending millions of bucks to avoid admitting the obvious. This has been going on for months on my local classic rock station morning noon and night and it makes me climb the walls everytime I hear the ad. I can't help but think that such multi-million dollar studies are only feeding the beast and creating more pain patients. Oh well! A voice crying in the wilderness!

I keep thinking about the demographic that listens to that classic rock station. They're all in the 35 to 65 (more or less) age group where according to Dr. Sarno back pain occurs most frequently - early middle age, the age of "responsibility" and worries about personal mortality. Those marketing guys know how to get just the results they expect, don't they?
 
I was also diagnosed once with FM, I had a great emotional reaction to the diagnosis, then I got over it, then (eventually) I found this forum. I also follow conspiracy theorists and am not much into the medical system and how they try to find a cure for different diseases or dis-ease. There only seems to be hard work in the area of emotional release.

On another note, I have a friend/acquaintance I have known for 15 years now, that I just found out was paralyzed 6 months ago from a botched back surgery. I feel so bad for him. I feel bad for the many people who don't make it over to the other side - the TMS side, at the same time I am grateful beyond beyond sometimes for having made it myself.
 
I was diagnosed in 1983 by a rheumatologist/internist. At that time no one had heard of the 'disease'. I decided to treat as just another autoimmune disease and work through it. I did find a calcium/magnesium/malic acid supplement helpful. I never missed a day's work, but my youngest child did become a very good cook and my husband was good at vacuuming and heavy housework. I resisted any drugs until I developed neurothapy in my SI joint and foot after a car accident in 2010. I then started Lyrica, but could never get to a full dose because of the dizziness. One of the effects of the neurothapy for me was falling over - now I have a drug adding to it. I quit it last month after I found Dr Sarno's book and my wonderful new massage therapist. He must have been freaked when he was doing a fibromyalgia massage, which is a very gentle procedure, when I suddenly was 7 years old. He has handled it all so well. I think he's disappointed currently when he asks me where I am now and I answer, "Here with you". The real reason I quit was the weight gain. Raised by a mother who obsessed over my weight (and I was very slim), I found the 15 pounds around my middle very depressing. Seven disappeared immediately, hopefully the rest will, too . I didn't have any trouble going 'cold turkey'.

Is fibro real? Nah, it's definitely TMS. Dr Hanscom says pain and anger travel on the same neurological pathways. My pain is/was my anger over my horrid childhood, fueled by other issues along the way. Prescription drugs are scary and I try to avoid as many as possible. Luckily, my PCP, who I rarely see, understands my viewpoint. Lyrica is bad, but I think Cymbalta is worse.
 
I live next door to a guy who is an executive with a pharmaceutical conglomerate. He makes big bucks being part of the drug culture that makes billions on pills they pay doctors to push on to their patients. In spite of that, I like the guy and silently forgive him for his occupation. He has a wife and two little kids and they live in a house four times the size of my small ranch house. He needs the money, but I'd rather he rob a bank to get it.

That Stanford study is more of the same. Millions of dollars spent to perpetuate the myth of modern medicine and discredit TMS.

I feel so lucky I know and believe in TMS and am doing all I can to spread the word.
 
Hi, Jlm. Childhood traumas are some of the main causes of TMS, says Dr. Sarno.
Your fibro is very likely TMS. If you haven't tried it yet, start the Structured Education Program
free here. It will take you through techniques to heal. Let us know how it goes.
 
Mermaid said:
For some people Lyrica is a dangerous poison. This is the first time I've been in contact with anyone who has shared this experience. I was made to feel like a crazy person by my doctor, who insisted that this medication was safe and could not be the cause of the strange side effects I had, even though they were listed on the information sheet which comes in the box ! bangheada

Some of them were very embarrasing, the memory lapses drove me crazy. The emotional blunting and suicidal depression in withdrawal were no fun either, but I always had a little voice deep inside telling me that it was false and I would eventually be OK, which of course I am.

I was polydrugged to within an inch of my life, never, ever again !! armscrosseddenial
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I experienced the same effects with gabapentin. Not so strongly with Pregabalin, but I dropped it in 15days and I felt worse than ever. Now it is interesting what happened after only using gabapentin for 10 days, I suffered pain I had not suffered before, together with the old one, and it was increased in scale. When I mentioned that to my MD he said, We know you have sychological issues, so your pain perception is affected by them, not by the drug.!
Anybody?
 
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